Hello John and all my M222+ cousins, I have recently tested at FTDNA and am L513- which is a good sign for me to be considered Pre-M222 by my L21+ brothers. As soon as the DF23 SNP test is available, I will order it and post the results. With the DF23 test available, we should then know how many Pre-M222's are around. I contacted the Hannan DNA site and asked the Admin to contact the other six M222 look alikes to Deep Clade test but five would not and the sixth has changed e-mail address and could not be reached. FTDNA matched me with a person whose name is Fannin. We match 34/37 and also on the 439 marker where we match 10 - an unusual count according to WAHM. Mr. Fannin is a member of the Fanning DNA Project. There are 42 Fannings who look like M222 but only 2 are Deep Clade tested. The interesting news is that the two are L21+ M222-! I also have been tested for the 68-111 panel and still look like M222. Best regards, Mike Hannan 96185

Hi Mike You are now shown to be M222+ at http://www.familytreedna.com/public/R1b1c7/default.aspx?section=ysnp Did you re-test? Sandy -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of mhannan23@tvcconnect.net Sent: 23 July 2011 20:40 To: DNA-R1B1C7@rootsweb.com Subject: [R-M222] Pre-M222 Hello John and all my M222+ cousins, I have recently tested at FTDNA and am L513- which is a good sign for me to be considered Pre-M222 by my L21+ brothers. As soon as the DF23 SNP test is available, I will order it and post the results. With the DF23 test available, we should then know how many Pre-M222's are around. I contacted the Hannan DNA site and asked the Admin to contact the other six M222 look alikes to Deep Clade test but five would not and the sixth has changed e-mail address and could not be reached.