[I found a Lamont sample in your name on Ysearch the other day. He does not appear to be M222. Who might that be?] It's probably Lamont, kit number 203128 on the Lamont site. He may be M222 but he's not obviously so. I think he matches 9/15 of the markers that distinguish M222 from L21 and he hasn't had his haplotype tested. His roots go back to Argyllshire, and he has a rock-solid pedigree that goes back to a birth in 1710 registered in Inverkip. He's one generation away from proving that he's descended from the McPhadrick Lamonts. I still don't understand which figures you find to be inconsistent with Comcille's approximate birth date. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lochlan@aol.com Sent: 26 September 2011 01:38 To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [R-M222] Clan Donnachaidh M222 In a message dated 9/25/2011 2:31:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time, alexanderpatterson@btinternet.com writes: I'm not familiar with the McGee utilities - mostly I write my own code. However, I can see that it's based on the infinite alleles model, which in my opinion is the equivalent of basing conclusions on the theories of the flat earth society. I see also that it's a 37-marker analysis. I think the FSE would approve of that too. You can chose either the infinite alleles model or the or the hybrid mutation modal in the McGee utility. Infinite alleles is the default. I normally check off the hybrid modal since that's compatible with FTDNA. However I do not remember which one I used for that run. I checked the 37-67 marker section of the Duncan/McConachie section and saw no differences from the modal so I used 37 markers to gain a larger selection of samples. I found a Lamont sample in your name on Ysearch the other day. He does not appear to be M222. Who might that be? John R1b1c7 Research and Links: http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message