http://www.familytreedna.com/public/clandonnachaidh/default.aspx?section=ycolorized SET results to 1000. There are not that many results, however, well over 750 and growing all the time. The results of this project are similar to those of other large projects -- Currently M222 results project wide somewhere around 100 or slightly under 1/7th of the published results. Up until DNA this clan like all others considered Surnames as chosen, acquired, or changed as the classification for belonging. Only the leadership was blood related, or attempted to be. If you read the candid summary of history previously posted one sees that they honestly state the histories are a bit murky (as most scribed oral histories are); however, the Clan does attempt to eek out the probable(s) and has embraced DNA to assist in the process. Will we ever really know the entire truth? Probably not. Theories are suggested, suggestions made which generally are revised over time as new discoveries and/or theories are launced.

I'm not sure what you mean by 'other large projects' but it would be interesting to have a comparison of the M222% for Stewart, Robertson and McGregor as all three have peak density in Perthshire (even if their true origins were elsewhere). The Kennedys from highland Perthshire I have tested (including myself) are a mixture but the M222 ones probably entered over the border from Lochaber. You are right that we may never solve the general problem of how everyone of a particular surname came to acquire it, but unearthing 'background' haplotypes for areas is a start. Iain http://www.kennedydna.com > Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:12:34 -0400 > From: chantillycarpets@earthlink.net > To: bernardmorgan@hotmail.com; dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com; dna-r1b1c7-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: [R-M222] Family Tree DNA - Clan Donnachaidh DNA Project Website > > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/clandonnachaidh/default.aspx?section=ycolorized > > SET results to 1000. There are not that many results, however, well > over 750 and growing all the time. > > The results of this project are similar to those of other large projects -- > Currently M222 results project wide somewhere around 100 or slightly > under 1/7th of the published results. > > Up until DNA this clan like all others considered Surnames as chosen, > acquired, or changed as the classification for belonging. Only the > leadership was blood related, or attempted to be. > > If you read the candid summary of history previously posted one sees > that they honestly state the histories are a bit murky (as most scribed > oral histories are); however, the Clan does attempt to eek out the > probable(s) and has embraced DNA to assist in the process. > > Will we ever really know the entire truth? Probably not. Theories are > suggested, suggestions made which generally are revised over time as new > discoveries and/or theories are launced. > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> > If you read the candid summary of history previously posted one sees > that they honestly state the histories are a bit murky (as most scribed > oral histories are); however, the Clan does attempt to eek out the > probable(s) and has embraced DNA to assist in the process. > Very murky: Burke's 19th century "Heraldic Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain" Has Donnachadh Reamhair the son of Andrew de Atholia as the grandson of Malcolm de Insulis (of the MacDonald kindred). Macolm de Insulis having married (in 1210) the heiress Lora, Comtissa de Atholia, daughter of Thomas of Galloway. Her half-brother was Patrick Earl of Atholl. [The book also discounts the claim that Andrew 's brother John, the Earl of Atholl, was in realty John de Strathbogie.] Skene's work : Cites a charter showing the proprietor of Glenerochie was Eugenius son of Coningi son of Henrici comitis Ahtoliae. It is through this land possession of Glenerochie, later incorporated into the Barony of Stowan, that Skene connects the illegitate ancestors of the last native Earl of Atholl with Donnachadh Reamhair the son of Andrew de Atholia 1st lord of Strowan. [Reference is also made to Donnachadh marring the daughter of Callum Rua Leamnach.]