All interested, Seven of the eight primers the Krahns designed for me designated (A359, A360, A361, A362, A363, A364, A365, M4491) to match up with Walter Freeman's unique SNPs from Big Y have come back. Only A363 is missing. We match 3 of 7. As David Wilson referred to in his last message to the board, A360, A361 and M4491 are three more confirmed downstream SNPs from 4077/78. 44A359ChrY1807899118078991T-44A360ChrY1809819418098194T+44A361ChrY1934197919341979A+44A362ChrY2262524822625248G-44A364ChrY69129576912957G-44A365ChrY82321638232163A- 44M4491ChrY2148549821485498T+ Regards, Steve LominacSudduth and related families FTDNA Project Admin