Hi everyone, I have recently got back my cousins kit PADEN 341945 and all his matches are M222 so I suspect highly that he is as well and he is listed as Niall. We initially only tested to 37 markers and I am doubtful of getting very far as he matches two PEDEN and PADDON kits have only tested to 12 and 25 respectively. I have joined the FTDNA M222 project and am looking for advice on possible SNPS to test. The closest matches have not done much SNP testing only confirmed M222. The 12/12 Peden match is from Coleraine, Londonderry. The other PADDON looks to be from Ayrshire. Closest other surnames are MCHARG 34/37 (6) and MAXWELL 36/37 (10) also a couple of KEITH, MCKEE, and 2 LOWERY---but again no downstream testing. Do I cautiously test a SNP or two via YSEQ.com, wait for a new DEEP Clade or similar panel down the road. Not flush with cash for this endeavor as just finished sponsoring a Full Y on my hubby (R-L2). Looking for any advice, ideas, suggestions. Thanks in advance Kelly -- Kelly Wheaton a4est42@gmail.com <http://tinyurl.com/geneticgenealogyguide> The Beginner's Guide to Genetic Genealogy <http://tinyurl.com/geneticgenealogyguide> Wheaton Surname Resources <https://sites.google.com/site/wheatonsurname/home> Rehoboth, MA DNA Project <http://www.familytreedna.com/public/REHOBOTH/>

Hi, Kelly, welcome to M222. First, check out the SNP tree kept by Iain Kennedy http://www.kennedydna.com/M222.pdf Within R-M222 the 37 markers may or may not be informative as for suggestions on SNPs That said, I'll take a look at the haplotype and compare it to the data set I keep for the SNP results. A safe choice for SNPs to start would be S660 also known as DF109 (S659 is DF105 as seen on the tree); this particular down stream SNP is a pivotal marker as you will see from the tree. If you want to SNP test more than 1, I'd go in the direction of DF85, DF97, S588 and FGC4077 or FGC4078 -- presently they look equivalent other. There is also the option of ScotlandsDNA Chromo2 Raw Data that for R-M222 tests most of these SNPs with the exception of DF97 and the FGC and A SNPs listed on the tree. The cost of that is about $200.00 American; you know the current cost of the YSEQ SNPs per SNP. I hope this helps. Susan Hedeen On 6/5/2014 1:09 PM, Kelly Wheaton wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have recently got back my cousins kit PADEN 341945 and all his matches > are M222 so I suspect highly that he is as well and he is listed as Niall. > We initially only tested to 37 markers and I am doubtful of getting very > far as he matches two PEDEN and PADDON kits have only tested to 12 and 25 > respectively. I have joined the FTDNA M222 project and am looking for > advice on possible SNPS to test. The closest matches have not done much SNP > testing only confirmed M222. The 12/12 Peden match is from Coleraine, > Londonderry. The other PADDON looks to be from Ayrshire. Closest other > surnames are MCHARG 34/37 (6) and MAXWELL 36/37 (10) also a couple of > KEITH, MCKEE, and 2 LOWERY---but again no downstream testing. Do I > cautiously test a SNP or two via YSEQ.com, wait for a new DEEP Clade or > similar panel down the road. Not flush with cash for this endeavor as just > finished sponsoring a Full Y on my hubby (R-L2). > > Looking for any advice, ideas, suggestions. > Thanks in advance > Kelly >

It's difficult to say what kind of deal something like a new deep clade test would represent but if you order whilst the yseq sale is still on it represents a bargain that is going to be hard to beat IMHO. S660 is a sort of centre of gravity beneath M222 and its probably best to start with that one if that's the sort of budget you are working with. For those who can spare a bit more I've recommended S660/S588/DF85/FGC4077 at the sale price which should place you in the tree fairly precisely although not 100%. If you wanted to do two, the sizes of the two biggest sub-branches under S660 are fairly similar based on the ScotlandsDNA anonymised data so not much in it between S588 and DF85 (aka S675). http://www.kennedydna.com/M222.pdf http://www.kennedydna.com/M222_tree.png Iain > Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 10:09:51 -0700 > From: a4est42@gmail.com > To: DNA-R1B1C7@rootsweb.com > Subject: [R-M222] Newbie to list (not Genetic genealogy) > > Hi everyone, > > I have recently got back my cousins kit PADEN 341945 and all his matches > are M222 so I suspect highly that he is as well and he is listed as Niall. > We initially only tested to 37 markers and I am doubtful of getting very > far as he matches two PEDEN and PADDON kits have only tested to 12 and 25 > respectively. I have joined the FTDNA M222 project and am looking for > advice on possible SNPS to test. The closest matches have not done much SNP > testing only confirmed M222. The 12/12 Peden match is from Coleraine, > Londonderry. The other PADDON looks to be from Ayrshire. Closest other > surnames are MCHARG 34/37 (6) and MAXWELL 36/37 (10) also a couple of > KEITH, MCKEE, and 2 LOWERY---but again no downstream testing. Do I > cautiously test a SNP or two via YSEQ.com, wait for a new DEEP Clade or > similar panel down the road. Not flush with cash for this endeavor as just > finished sponsoring a Full Y on my hubby (R-L2). > > Looking for any advice, ideas, suggestions. > Thanks in advance > Kelly > > -- > Kelly Wheaton > a4est42@gmail.com > > <http://tinyurl.com/geneticgenealogyguide> > The Beginner's Guide to Genetic Genealogy > <http://tinyurl.com/geneticgenealogyguide> > Wheaton Surname Resources > <https://sites.google.com/site/wheatonsurname/home> > Rehoboth, MA DNA Project <http://www.familytreedna.com/public/REHOBOTH/> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message