Doug, The key thing to understand is that all of us are in a sub-branch of our headline SNP (S660 in your case), its just that some of us don't have anyone else in it. If there is no-one in it except you, I don't put them on the tree diagram. Iain > Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 16:34:31 -0400 > From: tuulen@gmail.com > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Tree update > > Iain, > > I was surprised to discover that Degnen and I, both of the S660 group, have > an African Aborigine SNP marker, according to Big Y, albeit quite ancient. > > And although I tested DF85- (negative), I am wondering if I could be of any > other sub-branch or downstream branch of S660. > > Otherwise I am willing to play the waiting game. Thank goodness for the > Internet, but that is how this game gets played. > > Doug > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Iain Kennedy <ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > Doug, you are already known to be negative (ancestral) for the three new > > sub-branches of S660 from inspection of your BAM file. You are in a waiting > > game for someone else to come along and match you. Unless you want to > > splash out for the more expensive FullGenomes test but that won't find you > > new matches, more it would potentially add to your list of private SNPs. > > That would be a decision that needs careful weighing up to ensure you > > understood what you would and wouldn't get out of it. > > > > > > Iain > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 14:55:23 -0400 > > > From: tuulen@gmail.com > > > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Tree update > > > > > > I am in the S660 group, according to Big Y, but where could I go for > > > further genetic refinement? At FTDNA I have already tested as DF85- > > > (negative). > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Iain Kennedy <ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I think I have added all the results I was made aware of yesterday now. > > > > > > > > Paul McIlveen A223/4/5 (YSEQ) [also confirmed A259-, A260-] > > > > Steve Ewing S603 (YSEQ) > > > > J. McKown S603 (Chromo2) > > > > Ken Beirne FGC4077 (YSEQ) > > > > > > > > All interesting of course and congratulations, I hope if anyone in > > S660* > > > > has deferred followup testing this will encourage them to proceed as > > the > > > > sub-branching is quite fascinating... > > > > > > > > http://www.kennedydna.com/M222.pdf > > > > > > > > Iain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Iain, OK, given the fact that genetic mutations can occur, I am not going to expect too much. Hey, I made it into the M222 group and then got into the S660 group. Good enough! Doug On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 3:08 AM, Iain Kennedy <ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com> wrote: > Doug, > > The key thing to understand is that all of us are in a sub-branch of our > headline SNP (S660 in your case), its just that some of us don't have > anyone else in it. If there is no-one in it except you, I don't put them on > the tree diagram. > > Iain > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 16:34:31 -0400 > > From: tuulen@gmail.com > > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Tree update > > > > Iain, > > > > I was surprised to discover that Degnen and I, both of the S660 group, > have > > an African Aborigine SNP marker, according to Big Y, albeit quite > ancient. > > > > And although I tested DF85- (negative), I am wondering if I could be of > any > > other sub-branch or downstream branch of S660. > > > > Otherwise I am willing to play the waiting game. Thank goodness for the > > Internet, but that is how this game gets played. > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Iain Kennedy <ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > Doug, you are already known to be negative (ancestral) for the three > new > > > sub-branches of S660 from inspection of your BAM file. You are in a > waiting > > > game for someone else to come along and match you. Unless you want to > > > splash out for the more expensive FullGenomes test but that won't find > you > > > new matches, more it would potentially add to your list of private > SNPs. > > > That would be a decision that needs careful weighing up to ensure you > > > understood what you would and wouldn't get out of it. > > > > > > > > > Iain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 14:55:23 -0400 > > > > From: tuulen@gmail.com > > > > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Tree update > > > > > > > > I am in the S660 group, according to Big Y, but where could I go for > > > > further genetic refinement? At FTDNA I have already tested as DF85- > > > > (negative). > > > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Iain Kennedy < > ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I think I have added all the results I was made aware of yesterday > now. > > > > > > > > > > Paul McIlveen A223/4/5 (YSEQ) [also confirmed A259-, A260-] > > > > > Steve Ewing S603 (YSEQ) > > > > > J. McKown S603 (Chromo2) > > > > > Ken Beirne FGC4077 (YSEQ) > > > > > > > > > > All interesting of course and congratulations, I hope if anyone in > > > S660* > > > > > has deferred followup testing this will encourage them to proceed > as > > > the > > > > > sub-branching is quite fascinating... > > > > > > > > > > http://www.kennedydna.com/M222.pdf > > > > > > > > > > Iain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > > the > > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >