In a message dated 7/29/2011 11:15:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, raaq@live.com writes: What can I learn from the FTDNA Haplotree page My Matches, John? I have "exact" matches with 10 "people", 6 from Ireland, from R1b1a2a1a1b4b. I am said to be R1b1a2.I have a bunch more with 1-step mutations, with the same, R1b1a2a1a1b4b Haplogroup, most of them from Ireland, 136 out of less than 200 "matches .What can I draw from that other than that I appear to be Irish and in the Ribia2 area? Does it indicate my ancestors pretty far back were from Orkney or Scandinavia or anything specific? Regards, Bob Bob Quinn President&CEO Quinn Specialty Chemical Consultants I just checked the Quinn DNA project. The project admin. groups most of the M222 Quinns as Irish from Clann Fearghusa, including your own. That would make some sense. One might expect their DNA to be M222 with an origin from Owen, son of Nial. My only reservation might be I don't see a lot of solid location information online. The clan Fearghusa were well known in Irish history. It's the tribe name of the O Mailfabhails, Kings of Carraig Brachaidhe in Inishowen (Donegal). That's a name now preserved in the castle of Carrickabraghey (on the Isle of Doagh, parish of Clonmany). Among the septs associated with this tribe are the O'Hogans of Tullach oge in Tyrone and the O Conne or O Cuinn. The O'Hogans are probably the better known of the two - they were the traditional inaugurators of the O'Neill chieftains of Tullyhogue. It is presumed they followed the O'Neills west from their original base in Inishowen. There's an interesting reference to these two related septs in the Rights of O'Neill: 18. Muintir Chuinne and Muintir Again are the high-stewards and chief administrators of O Neill in the province of Ulster. Two-thirds of the revenue go to Muintir Chuinne, because there were two of them at the killing of Mag Lochlainn in the battle; and one-third to Muintir Again because only one of them was there present. Two cows out of every score, whether they be taken or given, and five pence for each cow as commutation. The killing of Mag Lochlainn is a reference to the Battle of Caim Eirge in 1241 when the combined forces of the O'Donnells and O'Neills defeated the MacLochlainns, then kings of the northern Ui Neill. The O'Hogans are named in the Topographical Poems. A stout chief over Tulach Og O hOgain, chief of white roads, The plough has passed through every wood for it, Another O hOgain is near it. Another section mentions the O Quinns and O'Hogans.. The Clanns of Fergus view ye, Know their vigorous chieftains; Victorious over [foes] in every hill, Are the Clann-Cuanach, the Clann-Baothghalaigh. Over the lasting Carraic Brachaidhe, Over the red-armed Clann Fergusa. On each side they extended to the wave, The O'Bruadairs, the O'Maoilfabhaills, The O'Coinnes, the O hOgains here, Elevation of human people. This is still somewhat conjectural though in that It's not yet clear to me if enough Quinn samples can be traced to Tryone or one of the surrounding counties to establish that this DNA is Cenel Fearghusa. Perhaps there is. You can see how the Cenel Fearghusa fit into the northern Ui Neill picture from this chart: _http://clanmaclochlainn.com/septs.htm_ (http://clanmaclochlainn.com/septs.htm) John