[R-M222] 111-Marker results Sandy, Thanks for the update on the 111 markers. Doug McKee, my husband, had his second 111 markers match, just barely, with a Duncan showing up at 9gd on the 111 total. McCombs and my husband, Doug, are 7gd at 111 markers. We also recently hit at 23andme on the Relative Finder on the "blue bar". I checked out the McGee DNA web site yesterday and Doug McKee matched Dean McGee's modal for McGee better than any of his other testers that have 111 markers tested. Go figure on that. On the latest test of 68-111 Doug was only 2 off their modal. That being 522 where Doug is 12 and McGee modal is 11 and 461 where Doug is 13 and McGee modal is 12. Total 9gd on 111 McGee modal. On our FTDNA McKee Group, Doug had another match at 23andme with a female cousin of McKee member of our FTDNA group (on the "blue bar"). On 23andme's Haplogroup Tree Mutation Mapper by Brian Naughton: Doug is R1b1b2a1a2f2, M222: variant .............................call.............anc.............der rs 20321 (M222)............A...................G...............A L21+ P312 no call L52+ P311+ L11+ P310+ L51+ L23 no call L49+ S3+ M269+ P297+ P25+ M343 no call P286+ P225+ M173+ P242 no call P238+ P236+ P234+ P233+ M306+ P285 no call P224+ M207+ P227+ P280+ P232+ P229 no call P228+ P226+ P282+ P281+ M45+ M74 no call P244+ P283 no call ....................... ..........results keeps going back and back, further and further. Then, Brian's program reports on the mtDNA where Doug is U4a2. I still do not understand much about DNA but I enjoy the search and the effort to figure it out or, better yet, talk to folks who do understand it all. Seems like a really good test here from 23andme by this fellow named Brian Naughton. Dr. Ann Turner had commented about it in a post she was responding to on 23andme and following her lead I found this test. Since, it saved me the Deep Clade on FTDNA as far as I am concerned I then ordered Family Finder. Thanks for your work here Sandy. I always enjoy your posts and your exchanges with Bill and John. It is a boring morning when I don't have posts by you folks to drink my early morning coffee with. When you disagree and are able to talk about it and air it out I enjoy it even more. Your exchanges with John and Jerry on the Celtic and Gaelic side of the table are even more entertaining and educational. Now where else can one go and enjoy all that in one digest? Sometimes, you just have to take a break and play the Galway Gal from PS.............or something. I just cannot imagine the list without John writing about all this wonderful Irish history........now, where else are you going to get that? Like a good TV series when they change cast members or like 2 and 1/2 men without Charlie. Some things just work great the way they are. Linda McKee

I've just had a closer look at the list, and the match between Grierson 7874 and Grierson 117158 is quite enlightening. I know their paper trails are excellent too. They have a GD of 15, but with 9 off-modal matches. I'd be most interested to know how closely they are related. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Linda Sent: 19 July 2011 17:21 To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: [R-M222] 111-Marker results [R-M222] 111-Marker results Sandy, Thanks for the update on the 111 markers. Doug McKee, my husband, had his second 111 markers match, just barely, with a Duncan showing up at 9gd on the 111 total. McCombs and my husband, Doug, are 7gd at 111 markers. We also recently hit at 23andme on the Relative Finder on the "blue bar". I checked out the McGee DNA web site yesterday and Doug McKee matched Dean McGee's modal for McGee better than any of his other testers that have 111 markers tested. Go figure on that. On the latest test of 68-111 Doug was only 2 off their modal. That being 522 where Doug is 12 and McGee modal is 11 and 461 where Doug is 13 and McGee modal is 12. Total 9gd on 111 McGee modal. On our FTDNA McKee Group, Doug had another match at 23andme with a female cousin of McKee member of our FTDNA group (on the "blue bar"). On 23andme's Haplogroup Tree Mutation Mapper by Brian Naughton: Doug is R1b1b2a1a2f2, M222: variant .............................call.............anc.............der rs 20321 (M222)............A...................G...............A L21+ P312 no call L52+ P311+ L11+ P310+ L51+ L23 no call L49+ S3+ M269+ P297+ P25+ M343 no call P286+ P225+ M173+ P242 no call P238+ P236+ P234+ P233+ M306+ P285 no call P224+ M207+ P227+ P280+ P232+ P229 no call P228+ P226+ P282+ P281+ M45+ M74 no call P244+ P283 no call ....................... ..........results keeps going back and back, further and further. Then, Brian's program reports on the mtDNA where Doug is U4a2. I still do not understand much about DNA but I enjoy the search and the effort to figure it out or, better yet, talk to folks who do understand it all. Seems like a really good test here from 23andme by this fellow named Brian Naughton. Dr. Ann Turner had commented about it in a post she was responding to on 23andme and following her lead I found this test. Since, it saved me the Deep Clade on FTDNA as far as I am concerned I then ordered Family Finder. Thanks for your work here Sandy. I always enjoy your posts and your exchanges with Bill and John. It is a boring morning when I don't have posts by you folks to drink my early morning coffee with. When you disagree and are able to talk about it and air it out I enjoy it even more. Your exchanges with John and Jerry on the Celtic and Gaelic side of the table are even more entertaining and educational. Now where else can one go and enjoy all that in one digest? Sometimes, you just have to take a break and play the Galway Gal from PS.............or something. I just cannot imagine the list without John writing about all this wonderful Irish history........now, where else are you going to get that? Like a good TV series when they change cast members or like 2 and 1/2 men without Charlie. Some things just work great the way they are. Linda McKee R1b1c7 Research and Links: http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message