In a message dated 7/23/2011 8:21:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, tuulen@gmail.com writes: Then Northern Ireland all but vanished from the map, and soon later Ireland and Scotland all but vanished, too. Now I am looking at a couple of big islands on the eastern side of the Atlantic ocean, where no political boundaries exist and where people are related only by DNA migration patterns. Wow! That probably is the best way to look at it. I think M222 pre-dates all known political boundaries, even the Roman invasion of Britain. I don't even know if there is really a tribal basis for it if you go back far enough. We'd never know what that tribe was anyway. John

John, Speaking of rumors, I have heard it said that Celtic people(s) are known to have once lived in other areas of Europe, perhaps a few thousand years ago, and as far south as what is now northern Italy and well into eastern Europe, too. Apparently some evidence of that exists, but I am not familiar with that topic. I mentioned how silently and subtly national borders vanished in my studies, but I did not realize that otherwise interesting development until I considered that very real tensions exist and have existed, especially between Irish and British settlements in Ireland and Northern Ireland. And I then realized that I should be careful in my speech, that people such as yourself might easily understand my newfound perspective, but that my forgetting to make such political border distinctions could inflame others who do make such distinctions. In other words, it is easy to ignore such border distinctions, but perhaps unwise to do so. Doug On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 10:45 PM, <Lochlan@aol.com> wrote: > > > In a message dated 7/23/2011 8:21:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > tuulen@gmail.com writes: > > Then Northern Ireland all but > vanished from the map, and soon later Ireland and Scotland all but > vanished, > too. Now I am looking at a couple of big islands on the eastern side of > the > Atlantic ocean, where no political boundaries exist and where people are > related only by DNA migration patterns. Wow! > > That probably is the best way to look at it. I think M222 pre-dates all > known political boundaries, > even the Roman invasion of Britain. I don't even know if there is > really a tribal basis for it if you go back far enough. We'd never know > what > that tribe was anyway. > > > John > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >