We just had an interesting sample join the M222 project, from DNA Heritage, surname is Turner from Newcastle which I presume is in England. This is one of the few samples I've seen as administrator that does not appear to be M222+ based on STR values yet tested M222+ on the deep clade test. It's only a 12 marker test (I'll encourage him to get more tested). The values are: 13-24-14-11-11-12-12-12-12-13-13-29 He's missing the M222 modal at almost every spot in the first 12 markers which is highly unusual. I doubt much can be said about the surname Turner. MacLysaght calls it English or Scots, in Scotland, possibly Mac an tuineir. John

Interesting, John. More testing is essential from the big-picture POV, he might add quite a lot to the discussion about age of M222. David On 7/07/2011 11:30 AM, Lochlan@aol.com wrote: > We just had an interesting sample join the M222 project, from DNA Heritage, > surname is Turner from Newcastle which I presume is in England. This is > one of the few samples I've seen as administrator that does not appear to > be M222+ based on STR values yet tested M222+ on the deep clade test. It's > only a 12 marker test (I'll encourage him to get more tested). The values > are: > > 13-24-14-11-11-12-12-12-12-13-13-29 > > He's missing the M222 modal at almost every spot in the first 12 markers > which is highly unusual. > > I doubt much can be said about the surname Turner. MacLysaght calls it > English or Scots, in Scotland, possibly Mac an tuineir. > > > > John > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1388 / Virus Database: 1516/3746 - Release Date: 07/05/11 > >