In a message dated 7/22/2011 10:49:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, agoforth@moscow.com writes: John, I am in the process of putting together a chart of my MacAdams right now and hope to finish it before going on vacation in mid-August. I don't know if that will be of any help in adding flesh to the bones though. I only have their history from 1790 on, with smatterings from earlier times in the Highlands, which may or may not be true, plus the aforementioned deep ancestry connections to the Lowland McAdams and the others. I suspect there isn't a lot we can say about most of those surnames without diving into complete speculation, but I recall posts linking the Griers/Griersons to the Millikins and McAdams via DNA. I saw others by Alan Millikin talking about McCords as well. I don't recall if the Cowans came up in the same conversation or not. I probably should leave them out of the group. John

All, The possibilities for such speculation seem virtually endless! I must constantly "ground" my research in facts, facts and only facts! And even then the facts can sometimes be on shaky ground. Doug On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:02 PM, <Lochlan@aol.com> wrote: > In a message dated 7/22/2011 10:49:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > agoforth@moscow.com writes: > > John, > > I am in the process of putting together a chart of my MacAdams right now > and hope to finish it before going on vacation in mid-August. I don't > know if that will be of any help in adding flesh to the bones though. I > only have their history from 1790 on, with smatterings from earlier > times in the Highlands, which may or may not be true, plus the > aforementioned deep ancestry connections to the Lowland McAdams and the > others. > > I suspect there isn't a lot we can say about most of those surnames without > diving into complete speculation, but I recall posts linking the > Griers/Griersons to the Millikins and McAdams via DNA. I saw others by > Alan > Millikin talking about McCords as well. I don't recall if the Cowans came > up in > the same conversation or not. I probably should leave them out of the > group. > > > John > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I think you are correct about speculation re: the Milligans and Millikins. We mostly don't, or just barely, connect with each other. We do have some in a loosely formed group with DYS458 = 18 and 389-2 = modal that have some promising similarities with Griersons. These are pretty erratic in the first 37 markers, but modal or one off modal in 38-67. Some have an idea of an origin in Ireland, others can't get across the ocean from the US. We have another group with DYS458 = 18 or 19 and DYS389-2 = 30 and some consistent off modals in 38-67. These mostly are traced to Ulster. I hope Alan Milliken jumps in on this. He's the researcher. I'm mainly an administrator. Susan Milligan ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lochlan@aol.com> To: <dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [R-M222] Griers, Millikins, McAdams, Ewings. > > I suspect there isn't a lot we can say about most of those surnames > without > diving into complete speculation, but I recall posts linking the > Griers/Griersons to the Millikins and McAdams via DNA. I saw others by > Alan > Millikin talking about McCords as well. I don't recall if the Cowans > came up in > the same conversation or not. I probably should leave them out of the > group. > > > John >