It struck me though that what's likely to put many people off from volunteering is the fear that FTDNA may once again make everyone's life difficult by making yet more changes to the way they do things I think you're referring to the changes in how FTDNA presents information, aren't you? Specifically turning multi-part markers formerly reported in two cells into one (11-13) which complicates capturing data in spreadsheets. Someone on this list who is no longer subscribed wrote a program which offers an easy work around to that problem in FTDNA. The program uses a web page of the project captured by saving the project web page, loads it into the program then saves the data as a cvs file. You can then import it into a spreadsheet with all the multi-part markers split into separate cells as before. If anyone would like a copy I don't think he'd mind sharing it. The only software requirement is having MS. Net framework installed on your computer. <If all that is stopping a qualified person from taking over the project, is some Web and database skills, then I can help with that, if needed. I don't have any particular skills except an interest in Irish history and genealogy. I probably know as much about DNA as the average enthusiast but I'm certainly no expert. What I've been doing is the daily busy work of checking DNA samples of those who want to join the project to make sure they match the M222 markers, the requirement David Wilson established when he began the project. I'm sure anyone on this list is familiar enough with the M222 modal markers to do the same. A new project administer could continue this practice - or institute new ones. To satisfy the purists, you could establish new groupings of DNA samples, one consisting of SNP tested M222 and another for those who match but are not SNP tested. This doesn't take a lot of time. I probably average about three a week. The new GAP setup is clunky but workable once you get used to it. Gerry, I think you would be as qualified as I am to be a co-administrator. Some projects have three or four co-administrators. I'm going to be honest here. I'm getting bored with DNA. We've been through the 37--67 markers upgrades, now 111 markers, the Walk on the Y initiative to discover new SNPS and the 23andMe and DeCodeme process and we know little more than we did years ago when the NW Irish clade was first reported. I think it's time for new blood in the project, especially now that David Wilson has retired ( he did request to retain his access to the GAP pages which I was happy to agree to). Maybe someone new can come up with fresh methods of analyzing the data. I get join requests everyday, many of which talk about being part of a research project. I do not tell them there is precious little research going on in the project. I just think the project would be better served by someone more enthusiastic about DNA than I am right now. John