Hi Iain, I am putting that book on my list. Thanks for mentioning it. What about the Lowlands? I know more about the Covenanters than I do about the Catholics (if any) that remained after the Reformation. Did they mostly leave the area after the Reformation? I'm trying to come up with some solid reasons to explain why our MacAdam lines were in the Arisaig area at the time of emigration in 1790--other than that romantic Battle of Bloody Bay/Edmund O'Brian legend. I don't think there were many of them there. On another topic, do you know of a good source of information on the Viking period in Galloway? Thanks, Allene

Hi Allene, Most of my lowland knowledge focuses on Ayrshire which is a very staunchly Presbyterian area (and Covenantor hotbed too of course). I don't think I have seen any sign of Catholics there post-Reformation until the emancipations and Irish arrivals in the early 1800s. I suspect everyone just converted but I don't know. Tracing these sort of internal migrations is extremely difficult, I have spent years trying to connect the Lochaber Kennedys back to Ayrshire but not found anything. There were some highland plantation schemes in the early 1600s but most of them aren't very well documented apart from Kintyre, which doesn't seem to have involved Kennedys. It did involve some other Ayrshire families though. For Scottish history the best bet is to acquire and digest the New Edinburgh History of Scotland series which has just come out as they will lead you to the best recent scholarship. Probably for the period you mention Alex Woolf's volume Pictland to Alba would be the one to check out although I don't know how specific it is about the combination of Vikings and Galloway (which from recall isn't well understood?). You can read part of it on Google books including his Further sources section which in turn recommends a book by Barbara Crawford, Scandinavian Scotland. http://books.google.com/books?id=7d1SP6ztlq0C&dq=pictland+to+alba&source=gbs_navlinks_s But Richard Oram who wrote the 1070-1230 NEHS volume is the leading expert on Galloway so I would check out his books. Try The Lordship of Galloway which is hard to get hold of now except a library. He also co-wrote a book called Viking Empires which may be worth a look at. It's quite wide ranging but with Oram as co-author it will have its fair share of Galloway references! regards Iain http://www.kennedydna.com http://www.clangathering.org/ > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 13:47:18 -0700 > From: agoforth@moscow.com > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [R-M222] New Tactics > > Hi Iain, > > I am putting that book on my list. Thanks for mentioning it. What about > the Lowlands? I know more about the Covenanters than I do about the > Catholics (if any) that remained after the Reformation. Did they mostly > leave the area after the Reformation? I'm trying to come up with some > solid reasons to explain why our MacAdam lines were in the Arisaig area > at the time of emigration in 1790--other than that romantic Battle of > Bloody Bay/Edmund O'Brian legend. I don't think there were many of them > there. > > On another topic, do you know of a good source of information on the > Viking period in Galloway? > > Thanks, > > Allene > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Iain, Thank you so much for all this useful information. I didn't know about the NEHS series. I will look into that in September after I get back from vacation. Kintyre! Now that's an idea, and it's on the way up the coast. Will take a look at that too. To get this thread back on track with the original topic of improving the M222 site, we could probably use a couple of reading lists for both Irish and Scottish history. If there's any interest in having reading lists on the site, then I could start compiling something in the fall (with good feedback like you just gave me) and give it to John to add to the site. I am a retired librarian and enjoy this sort of thing. Allene