Doug, Not so. When this cross-surname discussion started yesterday or today, I was in the midst of looking at the cross-surname issue. It can be addressed by looking at the intercluster sections of surname clusters in the RCC matrix. I will soon post what I found. I will do it on a web site that everyone can see, and I will explain how to read the results in a separate email to the List. I am also looking into the spellings of the cross-surname RCC 'hits'. Stay tuned. - Bye from Bill Howard On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:30 PM, tuulen wrote: > All, > > The possibilities for such speculation seem virtually endless! > > I must constantly "ground" my research in facts, facts and only facts! > > And even then the facts can sometimes be on shaky ground. > > Doug > > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:02 PM, <Lochlan@aol.com> wrote: > >> In a message dated 7/22/2011 10:49:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, >> agoforth@moscow.com writes: >> >> John, >> >> I am in the process of putting together a chart of my MacAdams right now >> and hope to finish it before going on vacation in mid-August. I don't >> know if that will be of any help in adding flesh to the bones though. I >> only have their history from 1790 on, with smatterings from earlier >> times in the Highlands, which may or may not be true, plus the >> aforementioned deep ancestry connections to the Lowland McAdams and the >> others. >> >> I suspect there isn't a lot we can say about most of those surnames without >> diving into complete speculation, but I recall posts linking the >> Griers/Griersons to the Millikins and McAdams via DNA. I saw others by >> Alan >> Millikin talking about McCords as well. I don't recall if the Cowans came >> up in >> the same conversation or not. I probably should leave them out of the >> group. >> >> >> John >> >> >> R1b1c7 Research and Links: >> >> http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bill, I think I understand how your theory works in general, but let me admit that goes well beyond all which I have so far considered, let alone attempted! However, your approach does seem promising, and I look forward to learning more about it. Thanks! Doug On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Bill Howard <weh8@verizon.net> wrote: > Doug, > Not so. > When this cross-surname discussion started yesterday or today, I was in the > midst of looking at the cross-surname issue. It can be addressed by looking > at the intercluster sections of surname clusters in the RCC matrix. > I will soon post what I found. I will do it on a web site that everyone can > see, and I will explain how to read the results in a separate email to the > List. I am also looking into the spellings of the cross-surname RCC 'hits'. > Stay tuned. > - Bye from Bill Howard > > On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:30 PM, tuulen wrote: > > > All, > > > > The possibilities for such speculation seem virtually endless! > > > > I must constantly "ground" my research in facts, facts and only facts! > > > > And even then the facts can sometimes be on shaky ground. > > > > Doug > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:02 PM, <Lochlan@aol.com> wrote: > > > >> In a message dated 7/22/2011 10:49:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > >> agoforth@moscow.com writes: > >> > >> John, > >> > >> I am in the process of putting together a chart of my MacAdams right > now > >> and hope to finish it before going on vacation in mid-August. I don't > >> know if that will be of any help in adding flesh to the bones though. I > >> only have their history from 1790 on, with smatterings from earlier > >> times in the Highlands, which may or may not be true, plus the > >> aforementioned deep ancestry connections to the Lowland McAdams and the > >> others. > >> > >> I suspect there isn't a lot we can say about most of those surnames > without > >> diving into complete speculation, but I recall posts linking the > >> Griers/Griersons to the Millikins and McAdams via DNA. I saw others by > >> Alan > >> Millikin talking about McCords as well. I don't recall if the Cowans > came > >> up in > >> the same conversation or not. I probably should leave them out of the > >> group. > >> > >> > >> John > >> > >> > >> R1b1c7 Research and Links: > >> > >> http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Yes, Doug, and thanks. Every time I dig more deeply into the RCC correlation approach, I find a slightly different and more exciting application for it. I have been notified by the editor of the Journal of Genetic Genealogy that my next two papers** will be published together in their next issue. I have done a revision of one but am waiting to reply to referee comments on the other. I am also hoping that FTDNA will become interested in it and I have run a test for them recently, generating a 50 testee tree from the haplotypes. So it goes…… and, it's fun. - Bye from Bill ** an analysis of the Gordon Clan and using Mathematica on an RCC matrix to derive the phylogenetic tree. The first is co-authored by the surname administrator of the Gordons, Tei Gordon, and the latter is co-authored by a colleague at the National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Fred Schwab. On Jul 23, 2011, at 2:21 AM, tuulen wrote: > Bill, > > I think I understand how your theory works in general, but let me admit that > goes well beyond all which I have so far considered, let alone attempted! > > However, your approach does seem promising, and I look forward to learning > more about it. > > Thanks! > > Doug