Thanks, again. Bob Quinn President&CEO Quinn Specialty Chemical Consultants Partner at Bay Street Investors/Bay Street Partners Co-Chair ACS GCI Manufacturer's Roundtable 27 Langton Lane Newtown Square, Pa, 19073 T:610-331-4920 e-mail:raaq@live.com Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/bobquinnspecialtychemicals > From: Lochlan@aol.com > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 20:52:38 -0400 > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com; ytliekb@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Keilty surname research > > > > In a message dated 7/29/2011 11:15:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > raaq@live.com writes: > > What can I learn from the FTDNA Haplotree page My Matches, John? I have > "exact" matches with 10 "people", 6 from Ireland, from R1b1a2a1a1b4b. I am > said to be R1b1a2.I have a bunch more with 1-step mutations, with the same, > R1b1a2a1a1b4b Haplogroup, most of them from Ireland, 136 out of less than > 200 "matches .What can I draw from that other than that I appear to be Irish > and in the Ribia2 area? Does it indicate my ancestors pretty far back were > from Orkney or Scandinavia or anything specific? Regards, Bob > > Bob Quinn > President&CEO > Quinn Specialty Chemical Consultants > > I just checked the Quinn DNA project. The project admin. groups most of > the M222 Quinns as Irish from Clann Fearghusa, including your own. That > would make some sense. One might expect their DNA to be M222 with an origin > from Owen, son of Nial. My only reservation might be I don't see a lot of > solid location information online. > > The clan Fearghusa were well known in Irish history. It's the tribe name > of the O Mailfabhails, Kings of Carraig Brachaidhe in Inishowen (Donegal). > That's a name now preserved in the castle of Carrickabraghey (on the Isle > of Doagh, parish of Clonmany). Among the septs associated with this tribe > are the O'Hogans of Tullach oge in Tyrone and the O Conne or O Cuinn. The > O'Hogans are probably the better known of the two - they were the > traditional inaugurators of the O'Neill chieftains of Tullyhogue. It is presumed > they followed the O'Neills west from their original base in Inishowen. > > There's an interesting reference to these two related septs in the Rights > of O'Neill: > > 18. Muintir Chuinne and Muintir Again are the high-stewards and chief > administrators of O Neill in the province of Ulster. Two-thirds of the > revenue go to Muintir Chuinne, because there were two of them at the > killing of Mag Lochlainn in the battle; and one-third to Muintir > Again because only one of them was there present. Two cows out of every > score, whether they be taken or given, and five pence for each cow as > commutation. > > The killing of Mag Lochlainn is a reference to the Battle of Caim Eirge in > 1241 when the combined forces of the O'Donnells and O'Neills defeated the > MacLochlainns, then kings of the northern Ui Neill. > > The O'Hogans are named in the Topographical Poems. > > A stout chief over Tulach Og > O hOgain, chief of white roads, > The plough has passed through every wood for it, > Another O hOgain is near it. > > Another section mentions the O Quinns and O'Hogans.. > > > The Clanns of Fergus view ye, > Know their vigorous chieftains; > Victorious over [foes] in every hill, > Are the Clann-Cuanach, the Clann-Baothghalaigh. > Over the lasting Carraic Brachaidhe, > Over the red-armed Clann Fergusa. > On each side they extended to the wave, > The O'Bruadairs, the O'Maoilfabhaills, > The O'Coinnes, the O hOgains here, > Elevation of human people. > This is still somewhat conjectural though in that It's not yet clear to me > if enough Quinn samples can be traced to Tryone or one of the surrounding > counties to establish that this DNA is Cenel Fearghusa. Perhaps there is. > You can see how the Cenel Fearghusa fit into the northern Ui Neill picture > from this chart: > _http://clanmaclochlainn.com/septs.htm_ > (http://clanmaclochlainn.com/septs.htm) > John > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message