Bernard, I have heard that story before, although the version I heard had the Morrisons of Harris in the Outer Hebrides as the descendants. The Benbecula U106, L48 McPhersons in my project who are matching a small group of Harris and Pabbay Morrisons are believed to be descendants of the MacMhuirich bards to the Lords of the Isles and later to Clanranald. Yes, we had a neat little Highland Games picture of the clans for a long time, especially in North American. DNA testing is blowing all that out of the water, and what an interesting show it is turning out to be. Allene On 7/19/2011 6:40 AM, Bernard Morgan wrote: > > Scottish Morrisons in the area of southern Inner Hebrides are Irish O'Muirgheasain, who were famed bards to the Hebridean lords (MacLeod& MacLean). > See "O'Muirgheasain Bardic Family" in Notes&' Queries of the Society of West Highland and Island Historical Research, vi (1978), 3-7. > > ps. Rogellus Obrolchan was secretary to Alexander Lord of the Isles in 1426. > > (My opinion is Scottish history became Anglo-centric and the Irish sort only pure Irishness, so we left to rediscover the past world of western seas.) > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Allene, Let me admit, that although the existing DNA evidence does not support the rumor, it is tempting to believe there could be an Irish genetic presence in the Hebrides. For instance, the Outer Hebrides are not far from Ireland, and while the big northern islands became predominantly Presbyterian following the Reformation, the smaller southern islands remained Catholic, to this day. That is not evidence, but it is an interesting coincidence. Doug On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Allene Goforth <agoforth@moscow.com>wrote: > Bernard, > > I have heard that story before, although the version I heard had the > Morrisons of Harris in the Outer Hebrides as the descendants. The > Benbecula U106, L48 McPhersons in my project who are matching a small > group of Harris and Pabbay Morrisons are believed to be descendants of > the MacMhuirich bards to the Lords of the Isles and later to Clanranald. > > Yes, we had a neat little Highland Games picture of the clans for a long > time, especially in North American. DNA testing is blowing all that out > of the water, and what an interesting show it is turning out to be. > Allene > > On 7/19/2011 6:40 AM, Bernard Morgan wrote: > > > > Scottish Morrisons in the area of southern Inner Hebrides are Irish > O'Muirgheasain, who were famed bards to the Hebridean lords (MacLeod& > MacLean). > > See "O'Muirgheasain Bardic Family" in Notes&' Queries of the Society of > West Highland and Island Historical Research, vi (1978), 3-7. > > > > ps. Rogellus Obrolchan was secretary to Alexander Lord of the Isles in > 1426. > > > > (My opinion is Scottish history became Anglo-centric and the Irish sort > only pure Irishness, so we left to rediscover the past world of western > seas.) > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Doug, I've been to South Uist, Benbecula, and North Uist, so I understand about the religious division between north and south. My g-g-g-grandfather Allan MacDonald was a Catholic from the Clanranald family on South Uist, most of whom converted to Presbyterianism. He emigrated to Cape Breton Island in 1823. I think there was more blurring along religious lines than I once thought. Also, my Highland M222 MacAdam lines (emigrated to PEI and Nova Scotia) are Catholics, but they have distant connections, probably predating the Reformation, to the Presbyterian McAdams of the Scottish Lowlands. Allene On 7/19/2011 8:35 AM, tuulen wrote: > Allene, > > Let me admit, that although the existing DNA evidence does not support the > rumor, > it is tempting to believe there could be an Irish genetic presence in the > Hebrides. > For instance, the Outer Hebrides are not far from Ireland, and while the big > northern > islands became predominantly Presbyterian following the Reformation, the > smaller > southern islands remained Catholic, to this day. > > That is not evidence, but it is an interesting coincidence. > > Doug > > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Allene Goforth<agoforth@moscow.com>wrote: > >> Bernard, >> >> I have heard that story before, although the version I heard had the >> Morrisons of Harris in the Outer Hebrides as the descendants. The >> Benbecula U106, L48 McPhersons in my project who are matching a small >> group of Harris and Pabbay Morrisons are believed to be descendants of >> the MacMhuirich bards to the Lords of the Isles and later to Clanranald. >> >> Yes, we had a neat little Highland Games picture of the clans for a long >> time, especially in North American. DNA testing is blowing all that out >> of the water, and what an interesting show it is turning out to be. >> Allene >> >> On 7/19/2011 6:40 AM, Bernard Morgan wrote: >>> Scottish Morrisons in the area of southern Inner Hebrides are Irish >> O'Muirgheasain, who were famed bards to the Hebridean lords (MacLeod& >> MacLean). >>> See "O'Muirgheasain Bardic Family" in Notes&' Queries of the Society of >> West Highland and Island Historical Research, vi (1978), 3-7. >>> ps. Rogellus Obrolchan was secretary to Alexander Lord of the Isles in >> 1426. >>> (My opinion is Scottish history became Anglo-centric and the Irish sort >> only pure Irishness, so we left to rediscover the past world of western >> seas.) >>> R1b1c7 Research and Links: >>> >>> http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> R1b1c7 Research and Links: >> >> http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message