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    1. Re: [R-M222] New Tactics
    2. tuulen
    3. Allene, The Scottish Morrison name, Mac Ghille Mhoire, is a Catholic name, and is an Anglicization of a translation of Gaelic. The first Scottish (actually, the Hebrides were not part of Scotland at that time, but of Norway) Morrison was Ghille Mhoire, or Servant of (Saint) Mary, and all subsequent family generations became Son of the Servant of (Saint) Mary, the Anglicization as Mary's Son => Morrison. Their story goes that a Norwegian man, his Irish wife and their son were shipwrecked but managed to get to the Isle of Lewis, and then stayed there. But they were on a return trip from Norway at that time, and that illustrates how the Irish could have ventured to the Hebrides, too, from an even closer distance. Doug On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Allene Goforth <agoforth@moscow.com>wrote: > Doug, > > I've been to South Uist, Benbecula, and North Uist, so I understand > about the religious division between north and south. My > g-g-g-grandfather Allan MacDonald was a Catholic from the Clanranald > family on South Uist, most of whom converted to Presbyterianism. He > emigrated to Cape Breton Island in 1823. I think there was more > blurring along religious lines than I once thought. Also, my Highland > M222 MacAdam lines (emigrated to PEI and Nova Scotia) are Catholics, but > they have distant connections, probably predating the Reformation, to > the Presbyterian McAdams of the Scottish Lowlands. > > Allene > > On 7/19/2011 8:35 AM, tuulen wrote: > > Allene, > > > > Let me admit, that although the existing DNA evidence does not support > the > > rumor, > > it is tempting to believe there could be an Irish genetic presence in the > > Hebrides. > > For instance, the Outer Hebrides are not far from Ireland, and while the > big > > northern > > islands became predominantly Presbyterian following the Reformation, the > > smaller > > southern islands remained Catholic, to this day. > > > > That is not evidence, but it is an interesting coincidence. > > > > Doug > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Allene Goforth<agoforth@moscow.com > >wrote: > > > >> Bernard, > >> > >> I have heard that story before, although the version I heard had the > >> Morrisons of Harris in the Outer Hebrides as the descendants. The > >> Benbecula U106, L48 McPhersons in my project who are matching a small > >> group of Harris and Pabbay Morrisons are believed to be descendants of > >> the MacMhuirich bards to the Lords of the Isles and later to Clanranald. > >> > >> Yes, we had a neat little Highland Games picture of the clans for a long > >> time, especially in North American. DNA testing is blowing all that out > >> of the water, and what an interesting show it is turning out to be. > >> Allene > >> > >> On 7/19/2011 6:40 AM, Bernard Morgan wrote: > >>> Scottish Morrisons in the area of southern Inner Hebrides are Irish > >> O'Muirgheasain, who were famed bards to the Hebridean lords (MacLeod& > >> MacLean). > >>> See "O'Muirgheasain Bardic Family" in Notes&' Queries of the Society of > >> West Highland and Island Historical Research, vi (1978), 3-7. > >>> ps. Rogellus Obrolchan was secretary to Alexander Lord of the Isles in > >> 1426. > >>> (My opinion is Scottish history became Anglo-centric and the Irish sort > >> only pure Irishness, so we left to rediscover the past world of western > >> seas.) > >>> R1b1c7 Research and Links: > >>> > >>> http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> R1b1c7 Research and Links: > >> > >> http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/19/2011 06:51:24
    1. Re: [R-M222] New Tactics
    2. Is this also the origin of the name Gilmore? Jim Wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: "tuulen" <tuulen@gmail.com> To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:51:24 PM Subject: Re: [R-M222] New Tactics Allene, The Scottish Morrison name, Mac Ghille Mhoire, is a Catholic name, and is an Anglicization of a translation of Gaelic. The first Scottish (actually, the Hebrides were not part of Scotland at that time, but of Norway) Morrison was Ghille Mhoire, or Servant of (Saint) Mary, and all subsequent family generations became Son of the Servant of (Saint) Mary, the Anglicization as Mary's Son => Morrison. Their story goes that a Norwegian man, his Irish wife and their son were shipwrecked but managed to get to the Isle of Lewis, and then stayed there. But they were on a return trip from Norway at that time, and that illustrates how the Irish could have ventured to the Hebrides, too, from an even closer distance. Doug On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Allene Goforth <agoforth@moscow.com>wrote: > Doug, > > I've been to South Uist, Benbecula, and North Uist, so I understand > about the religious division between north and south. My > g-g-g-grandfather Allan MacDonald was a Catholic from the Clanranald > family on South Uist, most of whom converted to Presbyterianism. He > emigrated to Cape Breton Island in 1823. I think there was more > blurring along religious lines than I once thought. Also, my Highland > M222 MacAdam lines (emigrated to PEI and Nova Scotia) are Catholics, but > they have distant connections, probably predating the Reformation, to > the Presbyterian McAdams of the Scottish Lowlands. > > Allene > > On 7/19/2011 8:35 AM, tuulen wrote: > > Allene, > > > > Let me admit, that although the existing DNA evidence does not support > the > > rumor, > > it is tempting to believe there could be an Irish genetic presence in the > > Hebrides. > > For instance, the Outer Hebrides are not far from Ireland, and while the > big > > northern > > islands became predominantly Presbyterian following the Reformation, the > > smaller > > southern islands remained Catholic, to this day. > > > > That is not evidence, but it is an interesting coincidence. > > > > Doug > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Allene Goforth<agoforth@moscow.com > >wrote: > > > >> Bernard, > >> > >> I have heard that story before, although the version I heard had the > >> Morrisons of Harris in the Outer Hebrides as the descendants. The > >> Benbecula U106, L48 McPhersons in my project who are matching a small > >> group of Harris and Pabbay Morrisons are believed to be descendants of > >> the MacMhuirich bards to the Lords of the Isles and later to Clanranald. > >> > >> Yes, we had a neat little Highland Games picture of the clans for a long > >> time, especially in North American. DNA testing is blowing all that out > >> of the water, and what an interesting show it is turning out to be. > >> Allene > >> > >> On 7/19/2011 6:40 AM, Bernard Morgan wrote: > >>> Scottish Morrisons in the area of southern Inner Hebrides are Irish > >> O'Muirgheasain, who were famed bards to the Hebridean lords (MacLeod& > >> MacLean). > >>> See "O'Muirgheasain Bardic Family" in Notes&' Queries of the Society of > >> West Highland and Island Historical Research, vi (1978), 3-7. > >>> ps. Rogellus Obrolchan was secretary to Alexander Lord of the Isles in > >> 1426. > >>> (My opinion is Scottish history became Anglo-centric and the Irish sort > >> only pure Irishness, so we left to rediscover the past world of western > >> seas.) > >>> R1b1c7 Research and Links: > >>> > >>> http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > >>> ------------------------------- > >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> R1b1c7 Research and Links: > >> > >> http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > R1b1c7 Research and Links: http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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