I user to live in South Armagh and Burns would be a common spelling there. My reading has suggested that the "Ui Echach" you mention below, are indeed from Oirghialla or Armagh. I just mention this because of all of the confusion I have seen between them, their neighbors in west Down, the Ui Echach Coba and their neighbors in east Down, the Ui Echach nArda. Gerry Hoy -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of pabloburns@comcast.net I really must get up into Armagh where the records show numerous Byrne families, and I have no idea who or what they are. >From your other recent post: "Ui Echach was probably that branch of the Oirghialla situated in what, roughly, is the present barony of Armagh"