Hi Sandy,   Thank you.  I think that collection is probably included in the Naoimhsheanchas tradition.  'Saint-seanchas' and 'holy-seanchas' are good translations of 'Naoimhsheanchas', and as you know Seanchas is the interwoven tradition of law, history, and genealogy.    The Dublin Institute for Advanced Studies published a comprehensive volume of Naoimhsheanchas within the last couple of decades, but I haven't had a chance to read it yet.   Le gach dea-ghui/, Best, Jerry   Cló an Druaidh / The Druid Press www.druidpress.com From: Sandy Paterson <alexanderpatterson@btinternet.com> To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:57 AM Subject: Re: [R-M222] abbots, abbesses, and heirs Hi Jerry I found something in the Oxford DNB that looks interesting. It's an article about the abbots of Iona. In the article, reference is made to an abbot called Virgno, who seemingly was unrelated to Columba. The note goes on to say "...this (his non-kinship to Columba) is... supported by his absence from the eighth-century collection of genealogies of Ui Neill abbots of Iona (almost all from Cenel Conaill). Are you familiar with this collection? Sandy   -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Kelly Sent: 01 June 2011 04:21 To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [R-M222] abbots, abbesses, and heirs Hi Sandy, I don't know of any reference work dedicated solely to the erenagh / ecclesiastical families, although we could sure use one.  The following books provide good information about surnames in Ireland including the erenagh families: R1b1c7 Research and Links: http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message