To me, the big puzzle is that there is absolutely no perceptible similarity (beyond both being M222) between The Donegal McLaughlains and the M222 Cains (who I think are the group who you refer to as the M222 O Cathains from Ulster). Logic suggests therefore that either the Donegal McLaughlains are not from Donegal, or the M222 Cains are not from Ulster. As for pure imagination, if you choose to disregard the sworn statement of a Clan chief, so be it. McKechnie did, so you aren't the first. But let's see how the 68-111 marker results pan out. Sandy -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lochlan@aol.com Sent: 28 June 2011 23:40 To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [R-M222] 111-Marker RESULTS In a message dated 6/28/2011 5:27:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, alexanderpatterson@btinternet.com writes: Do you think you can guess who they are, or did you mean that you think you can guess who I think they are?

Cooey-na-Gall O'Cathain is actually Con muighe na nGall O'Cathain (As per an earlier report by John). Is there a literal translation of "Con muighe na nGall" (since the topic came up earlier)? Just interested how the word "foreign" is embedded in the name as my internet source suggested. Charles PS He must have had some serious mojo if he could send 140 families packing (to Scotland). Maybe I will try that sometime....gotta make a list...

For those of you who don't understand the ancient Irish language...mine being somewhat incomplete by admission..."Mojo" means "charm" or ability to influence others." Anyone confirm? Charles Charles Cain wrote: > Cooey-na-Gall O'Cathain is actually Con muighe na nGall O'Cathain (As > per an earlier report by John). > > Is there a literal translation of > > "Con muighe na nGall" > > (since the topic came up earlier)? > > Just interested how the word "foreign" is embedded in the name as my > internet source suggested. > > Charles > > PS He must have had some serious mojo if he could send 140 families > packing (to Scotland). Maybe I will try that sometime....gotta make a > list... > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Charles, Modern Irish words for that kind of personal charm include plámás and carasma (taken directly from the word 'charisma'). Words for a charm used to cast spells include briocht, ortha (derived from the Latin 'oro'), piseog, and draíocht (the modern spelling of druidheacht / druidry). There was a very nice fellow by the name of Daniel Cassidy who claimed that large amounts of American slang came from Irish Gaelic. As far as my friends and I have been able to tell, he was not an Irish speaker and many of his claims seem unlikely. Is that where the mojo idea came from? Le gach dea-ghuí / Best, Jerry -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charles Cain Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:13 AM To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [R-M222] Con muighe na nGall O'Cathain For those of you who don't understand the ancient Irish language...mine being somewhat incomplete by admission..."Mojo" means "charm" or ability to influence others." Anyone confirm? Charles

Jerry Sorry...just trying to inject a bit of humor into the mix! As far as I know, "mojo" is of African origin via the Caribbean or southern US...apparently a common term in New Orleans meaning ability to influence via magical charm. Some of us got it and some of us don't. Still....who knows? I read something on here about king tut who, I guess, if not of very old Irish, was likely of African origin. Gottta have some humor guys! Charles Quoting Jerry Kelly <jerrykelly@att.net>: > Hi Charles, > > Modern Irish words for that kind of personal charm include plámás and > carasma (taken directly from the word 'charisma'). Words for a charm > used to cast spells include briocht, ortha (derived from the Latin 'oro'), > piseog, and draíocht (the modern spelling of druidheacht / druidry). > > There was a very nice fellow by the name of Daniel Cassidy who claimed that > large amounts of American slang came from Irish Gaelic. As far as my > friends and I have been able to tell, he was not an Irish speaker and many > of his claims seem unlikely. Is that where the mojo idea came from? > > Le gach dea-ghuí / Best, > Jerry > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charles Cain > Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:13 AM > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Con muighe na nGall O'Cathain > > For those of you who don't understand the ancient Irish language...mine > being somewhat incomplete by admission..."Mojo" means "charm" or ability to > influence others." > > Anyone confirm? > > Charles > > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If anyone is curious, here is a page with a selection from Daniel Cassidy's book about Nineteenth Century American slang from Irish, which Jerry mentions: http://www.counterpunch.org/cassidy05132006.html Gerry Hoy -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Kelly Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2011 12:05 AM To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [R-M222] Con muighe na nGall O'Cathain Hi Charles, Modern Irish words for that kind of personal charm include plámás and carasma (taken directly from the word 'charisma'). Words for a charm used to cast spells include briocht, ortha (derived from the Latin 'oro'), piseog, and draíocht (the modern spelling of druidheacht / druidry). There was a very nice fellow by the name of Daniel Cassidy who claimed that large amounts of American slang came from Irish Gaelic. As far as my friends and I have been able to tell, he was not an Irish speaker and many of his claims seem unlikely. Is that where the mojo idea came from? Le gach dea-ghuí / Best, Jerry -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charles Cain Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 11:13 AM To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [R-M222] Con muighe na nGall O'Cathain For those of you who don't understand the ancient Irish language...mine being somewhat incomplete by admission..."Mojo" means "charm" or ability to influence others." Anyone confirm? Charles R1b1c7 Research and Links: http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message