In the Inventory of Lamont papers http://www.archive.org/stream/scottishrecordso54scotuoft#page/n0/mode/2up a search for Orcanus reveals the following (pages 240-241) Inveryne Charters Declaration of the true Extraction off (sic) The McIlzegowies alias Lamont In a document entitled as above, dated 2 May 1661, and signed by Sir James Lamont, Sir James declares that "John M'Gilligowie in Castletoune in the Brae of Mar, and Donald M'Ilzegowie servitor to Sir David Ogilvie, sone to the Earl of Airlie, and all the name of M'Ilzeguies, ar my trew native kindlie people and kinsmen." He goes on to say that that they are descended from a son of one of his predecessors who was called by the nickname "Gillidow, that is, the blakboy, from quhom all his posteritie war callit the sones of the Gillidow, from quhich nickname they have gotten their sur- names, the quhich boy was son to Orcanus, Laird of Lamount, quha livet about the nyn hundredth zeir of oure Lord." Hector McKenchnie, in the book 'The Lamont Clan 1235-1935' says of this (pages 265-266): Some research had perhaps been made when arms were matriculated, and fabulous ancestors such as "Orcanus, Laird of Lamount quha livet about the nyn hundredth zeir of our Lord," were now ignored. So Mckechnie clearly believed that Orcanus was mere fantasy. A month or so back, I drew attention to the fact that in law, as established by a combination of royal and ecclesiastical authority during Iona's heyday, the words 'cain' and 'law' were equivalent, and 'Cain Adomnain' was the same as 'the Law of Adomnan'. This led to the possibility that Law = Cain Lagman = Cain Laumon McCain Lamont Kane The results for markers 68-111 are finally beginning to make sense out of the above. In this morning's update, looking at the 111 marker version, we find Paterson (~Lamont) Cain Kane with all of the following off-modal matches: DYS439 = 13 DYS570 = 18 DYS446 = 14+ DYS715 = 23 DYS513 = 14 DYS643 = 11 A quick glance at other haplotypes will establish that no surnames other than the above have (so far) turned up with these matches. The 11 at DYS643 is shared by a McNally and a Ryall, but that's about all in the 68-111 group. There are quite a few DYS439=13 in the 1-67 group, and DYS570=18 is quite common too. But Cain and variants and Paterson (~Lamont) seem to stand out clearly. So I think my speculations of a month or two ago are proving quite close to the truth. But who was Orcanus? Sandy