Sandy et al, I'm still in the throes of writing up my next newsletter for our website, but have now mounted the latest Chart, see: http://www.shade.id.au/Grierson/GriersonDNA.htm You can see from my 111 marker chart that three families of Griersons, divided by about 600 years, have added about five off-modal matches out to the new list of markers. So we have a clearly defined, albeit limited in sample, set of off-modals compared to M222, in the order of 10/111. I have included a Milligan for comparison, and he has four of the five new off-modals. I expect that we will see more off-modal matches coming out of what I call the Nith cluster in due course. I'm not sure of the basis (in terms of off-modal matches) upon which David Wilson deduced the existence of M222, and would appreciate his comment. But 10/111 seems significant, so I'm beginning to wonder whether we can see here in the Nith cluster evidence for a downstream SNP. Unfortunately, although I'm in the WTY project, I can't find the necessaries for the test at the moment. I'll break out my Grierson/Milligan charts and see where the new 111 markers take us. David Grierson On 26/06/2011 3:46 PM, Sandy Paterson wrote: > There's quite an impressive match between a Milligan and a Grierson over 111 > markers, a gd of 13 with 7 off-modal matches. > > Here are a few other matches that caught the eye : > > Clarkson/Patterson, a gd of 9 with 10 off-modal matches. > McCombs/McKee, a gd of 7 with 4 off-modal matches. > O'Brien/Reilly, a gd of 6 with 7 off-modal matches. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lochlan@aol.com > Sent: 26 June 2011 05:44 > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Subject: [R-M222] Milligan > > > We just had another Milligan join the project at 111 markers. His closest > two matches at 111 markers are two other Milligans (Kits 12068, 135550). > Genetic distance is reported at 16 and 17. His most distant match at that > level is a Burns (Kit 135550) at 40 GD. > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1382 / Virus Database: 1513/3726 - Release Date: 06/25/11 > >