I agree with Sandy. Additionally, ancestral origin of a geographical "country" or origin does not equate with supposing that all similarly named in various regions of that country will be related simply because of surname. Additionally, speculative genealogies and anecdotal stories maybe useful, however it is the combination of fastidiously documented genealogies and the YDNA which better inform us of relationships within and among the surname groups. There have been many a circumstance within our investigations where the YDNA has both disproved the speculative and anecdotal; rightly so, there have also been the case where there has been validation; however that assessment does not negate the necessity to attempt to establish the paper trail with due diligence particularly when a surname will cross both geographical boundaries and haplogroup SNP assignments. Migrations known and unknown in addition to residential proximity of surnames within specified time periods in situations where an NPE may be suspected is paramount to understanding some of these groups where the YDNA says one thing and the anecdotal stories say another. It is through deliberate investigations with resulting documentation where that NPE suspicion is either thrown out the window or accepted. Susan Hedeen On 12/9/2013 7:44 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > In a message dated 12/8/2013 7:31:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > Gene, > > Thank you for this information. To my knowledge, there is no proof that our > Ashley DNA Group is genetically related to this Astley family. > > I cannot follow your suggestion that there is a correlation between the > Klyosov and Conroy theory and the existence of an Astley living in the same > area centuries later. > > What is the basis for your conclusion? > > Sandi Ashley Sutton > > > > > > Sandi > Your are correct.But on the other hand in reality you don't have any > prove we are related. nothing on paper The same prove that we have with the > Astley family. We should expect a genetic distance of over a thousand > years .All my grand fathers said we came from England. What say yours ? > Gene > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >