Go here http://www.isogg.org/ and click on 'For Newbies' on the panel on the left. Resources include the DNA-NEWBIE Yahoo group and a glossary. Also from the separate link on the left there is a complete Y-DNA tree as we know it today. For our group, you can go straight to the page http://www.isogg.org/tree/ISOGG_HapgrpR.html and search for 'M222'. Iain > Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:04:49 -0400 > From: tuulen@gmail.com > To: ehouse@theedge.ca; dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [R-M222] New to DNA > > Hi, Faith, > > I am new to DNA-based family research, and there are DNA-associated words > and terms which are completely unfamiliar to me, too. > > So, short of a DNApedia, how about a website link to a page which includes > definitions and brief explanations of such specialized words? > > That is, just as much as there could be such questions now, there likely > will be such questions by other newcomers n the future, too. > > And, as you were saying, the easier the subject could be to understand and > discuss, then the greater our group's participation potential. > > Doug > > > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Ehouse <ehouse@theedge.ca> wrote: > > > New to DNA > > I too have been on this site for a few years, I could write on a postage > > stamp what I have learned but I keep trying. Perhaps some of the "know its" > > could help us who "don't understand" along by explaining things in simpler > > language. I personally think it would make this list a lot more interesting > > Faith > > R1b1c > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <dna-r1b1c7-request@rootsweb.com> > > To: <dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 5:01 PM > > Subject: DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 5, Issue 229 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > > > 1. Keilty surname research (Bernard Keilty) > > > 2. Re: Keilty surname research (Uncle Billy Dunbar) > > > 3. Re: Keilty surname research (Bob Quinn) > > > 4. Re: Keilty surname research (tuulen) > > > 5. Re: Keilty surname research (John Carey) > > > 6. Re: Keilty surname research (Allene Goforth) > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:52:29 -0700 (PDT) > > > From: Bernard Keilty <ytliekb@yahoo.com> > > > Subject: [R-M222] Keilty surname research > > > To: "DNA-R1B1C7@rootsweb.com" <DNA-R1B1C7@rootsweb.com> > > > Message-ID: > > > <1311875549.26062.YahooMailNeo@web121514.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > > > > Hello,?I just joined the list and figured out how to browse/search. I am > > > new to DNA as well. I am really just a lurking sole who doesn't know what > > > to do with all of the dna info as of yet. FTDNA tells us customers to > > read > > > the tutorials. I have been researching Keilty family history for just a > > > few years here in the USA (paperwork genealogy). > > > ? > > > I am trying to identify accurate information about the Keilty family from > > > Ireland. > > > I do know that my paternal great-grandfather "Michael Keilty" was > > supposed > > > to have come from County Tyrone, Ireland and immigrated to the USA abt > > > 1860 settling in Watertown, County Litchfield, Connecticut, 06795 USA. > > > Michael Keilty was born 15 AUG 1838 (Tyrone?) Ireland, died 08 MAR 1923 > > > and buried Mt St James Cemetery, Watertown, County Litchfield, > > > Connecticut, 06795 USA. Possibly from the parish of Kildress and diocese > > > of Armagh. Michael was Catholic and his parents are possibly Patrick > > > Keilty (1810-) and Catherine McShane (1818-) from Ireland. > > > Michael Keilty (1838-1923) married Sarah Quinn (1854-1927), but it is not > > > known whether married in Ireland or the USA. They had nine children and > > > raised their family in Watertown, County Litchfield, Connecticut, 06795 > > > USA. > > > I am interested in researching how far back the Keilty surname goes. Some > > > of the other surnames of interest from the paperwork genealogy include > > > Keilty, McShane, Quinn, Kelly (from County Roscommon, Ireland), Dubauskas > > > (from Lithuania). > > > If anyone could kindly point me in the right direction or refer me to > > > someone it would be greatly appreciated. > > > I would be pleased to provide any further information. > > > Bernard Joseph Keilty Jr. > > > ytliekb@yahoo.com > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 2 > > > Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:00:18 -0400 (EDT) > > > From: Uncle Billy Dunbar <countryunplugged@aol.com> > > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Keilty surname research > > > To: ytliekb@yahoo.com, dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > > > Message-ID: <8CE1B6FB9FD5CD3-15D0-6684@Webmail-d108.sysops.aol.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > > Well lot's of luck Bernard, but I think your barking up the wrong tree on > > > this site. I haven't learned a thing in the 2 or 3 years on here, you > > > have to be a expert or more then you think you know to argue about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bernard Keilty <ytliekb@yahoo.com> > > > To: DNA-R1B1C7 <DNA-R1B1C7@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Thu, Jul 28, 2011 12:53 pm > > > Subject: [R-M222] Keilty surname research > > > > > > > > > Hello, I just joined the list and figured out how to browse/search. I am > > > new to > > > NA as well. I am really just a lurking sole who doesn't know what to do > > > with > > > ll of the dna info as of yet. FTDNA tells us customers to read the > > > tutorials. I > > > ave been researching Keilty family history for just a few years here in > > > the USA > > > paperwork genealogy). > > > > > > am trying to identify accurate information about the Keilty family from > > > reland. > > > do know that my paternal great-grandfather "Michael Keilty" was supposed > > > to > > > ave come from County Tyrone, Ireland and immigrated to the USA abt 1860 > > > ettling in Watertown, County Litchfield, Connecticut, 06795 USA. Michael > > > Keilty > > > as born 15 AUG 1838 (Tyrone?) Ireland, died 08 MAR 1923 and buried Mt St > > > James > > > emetery, Watertown, County Litchfield, Connecticut, 06795 USA. Possibly > > > from > > > he parish of Kildress and diocese of Armagh. Michael was Catholic and his > > > arents are possibly Patrick Keilty (1810-) and Catherine McShane (1818-) > > > from > > > reland. > > > ichael Keilty (1838-1923) married Sarah Quinn (1854-1927), but it is not > > > known > > > hether married in Ireland or the USA. They had nine children and raised > > > their > > > amily in Watertown, County Litchfield, Connecticut, 06795 USA. > > > am interested in researching how far back the Keilty surname goes. Some > > of > > > the > > > ther surnames of interest from the paperwork genealogy include Keilty, > > > McShane, > > > uinn, Kelly (from County Roscommon, Ireland), Dubauskas (from Lithuania). > > > f anyone could kindly point me in the right direction or refer me to > > > someone it > > > ould be greatly appreciated. > > > would be pleased to provide any further information. > > > ernard Joseph Keilty Jr. > > > tliekb@yahoo.com > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > > > ------------------------------ > > > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com > > > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > > > of > > > he message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 3 > > > Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 15:34:24 -0400 > > > From: Bob Quinn <raaq@live.com> > > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Keilty surname research > > > To: <ytliekb@yahoo.com>, <dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com> > > > Message-ID: <BLU128-W18A14BFD0155820ABD8AACA0340@phx.gbl> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > > > > > > Hi, Bernard. I am in the M222 and Quinn projects on FTDNA and feeling my > > > way around. Give me a little time to better digest your note.My Family > > > Tree is Quinn/Woods on Ancestry.com. Bernard Quinn, my GGGF came to > > > Philadelphia from Armagh with his wife Elizabeth Murphy Quinn and their > > > son, my GGF Arthur Quinn in about 1870.My Mother's Woods family is from > > > Castleblayney and came to Philadelphia at about the same time.Takes a lot > > > of digging, for sure. Regards, Bob > > > > > > Bob Quinn > > > President&CEO > > > Quinn Specialty Chemical Consultants > > > > > > Partner at Bay Street Investors/Bay Street Partners > > > Co-Chair ACS GCI Manufacturer's Roundtable > > > 27 Langton Lane > > > Newtown Square, Pa, 19073 > > > T:610-331-4920 > > > e-mail:raaq@live.com > > > Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/bobquinnspecialtychemicals > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 10:52:29 -0700 > > >> From: ytliekb@yahoo.com > > >> To: DNA-R1B1C7@rootsweb.com > > >> Subject: [R-M222] Keilty surname research > > >> > > >> Hello, I just joined the list and figured out how to browse/search. I am > > >> new to DNA as well. I am really just a lurking sole who doesn't know > > what > > >> to do with all of the dna info as of yet. FTDNA tells us customers to > > >> read the tutorials. I have been researching Keilty family history for > > >> just a few years here in the USA (paperwork genealogy). > > >> > > >> I am trying to identify accurate information about the Keilty family > > from > > >> Ireland. > > >> I do know that my paternal great-grandfather "Michael Keilty" was > > >> supposed to have come from County Tyrone, Ireland and immigrated to the > > >> USA abt 1860 settling in Watertown, County Litchfield, Connecticut, > > 06795 > > >> USA. Michael Keilty was born 15 AUG 1838 (Tyrone?) Ireland, died 08 MAR > > >> 1923 and buried Mt St James Cemetery, Watertown, County Litchfield, > > >> Connecticut, 06795 USA. Possibly from the parish of Kildress and diocese > > >> of Armagh. Michael was Catholic and his parents are possibly Patrick > > >> Keilty (1810-) and Catherine McShane (1818-) from Ireland. > > >> Michael Keilty (1838-1923) married Sarah Quinn (1854-1927), but it is > > not > > >> known whether married in Ireland or the USA. They had nine children and > > >> raised their family in Watertown, County Litchfield, Connecticut, 06795 > > >> USA. > > >> I am interested in researching how far back the Keilty surname goes. > > Some > > >> of the other surnames of interest from the paperwork genealogy include > > >> Keilty, McShane, Quinn, Kelly (from County Roscommon, Ireland), > > Dubauskas > > >> (from Lithuania). > > >> If anyone could kindly point me in the right direction or refer me to > > >> someone it would be greatly appreciated. > > >> I would be pleased to provide any further information. > > >> Bernard Joseph Keilty Jr. > > >> ytliekb@yahoo.com > > >> R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > >> > > >> http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 4 > > > Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:50:24 -0400 > > > From: tuulen <tuulen@gmail.com> > > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Keilty surname research > > > To: Bernard Keilty <ytliekb@yahoo.com>, dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > > > Message-ID: > > > <CABbuTowXxHbsGh+H67qqa3BQqw=HXbazu9acfbwV7aisvfNV=Q@mail.gmail.com> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > > > Hi, Bernard, > > > > > > I am new to DNA-based family research, too. > > > > > > DNA can reveal many clues leading to useful information, but the > > immediate > > > difficulty is that nobody's family name has DNA. History books can tell > > > us > > > about ancient families, their names and the general area where they > > lived, > > > but, because names have no DNA, discovering any connection which may or > > > may > > > not exist between any of our names and those names of the past becomes a > > > matter of developing a well researched and accurate paper-trail based on > > > the > > > best information available. > > > > > > Then, as you may already know, individual and family records often can be > > > found, both in Ireland and in the US, from about the mid-19th century and > > > later, but earlier than that time becomes more random and records which > > do > > > exist sometimes can be confusing or misleading. And going back a few > > > hundred years could in many cases be extremely difficult or impossible. > > > > > > That is a fact which we all face. It is worthwhile to keep searching, > > but > > > be prepared for difficulties, to the extent of being big challenges. For > > > instance, my cousin is our family's historian, and it has taken him now > > > more > > > than 14 years to discover when our great-great-grandfather was born, but > > > we > > > still do not know where he was born. > > > > > > I wish you the best of good luck in your search! > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Bernard Keilty <ytliekb@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >> Hello, I just joined the list and figured out how to browse/search. I am > > >> new to DNA as well. I am really just a lurking sole who doesn't know > > what > > >> to > > >> do with all of the dna info as of yet. FTDNA tells us customers to read > > >> the > > >> tutorials. I have been researching Keilty family history for just a few > > >> years here in the USA (paperwork genealogy). > > >> > > >> I am trying to identify accurate information about the Keilty family > > from > > >> Ireland. > > >> I do know that my paternal great-grandfather "Michael Keilty" was > > >> supposed > > >> to have come from County Tyrone, Ireland and immigrated to the USA abt > > >> 1860 > > >> settling in Watertown, County Litchfield, Connecticut, 06795 USA. > > Michael > > >> Keilty was born 15 AUG 1838 (Tyrone?) Ireland, died 08 MAR 1923 and > > >> buried > > >> Mt St James Cemetery, Watertown, County Litchfield, Connecticut, 06795 > > >> USA. > > >> Possibly from the parish of Kildress and diocese of Armagh. Michael was > > >> Catholic and his parents are possibly Patrick Keilty (1810-) and > > >> Catherine > > >> McShane (1818-) from Ireland. > > >> Michael Keilty (1838-1923) married Sarah Quinn (1854-1927), but it is > > not > > >> known whether married in Ireland or the USA. They had nine children and > > >> raised their family in Watertown, County Litchfield, Connecticut, 06795 > > >> USA. > > >> I am interested in researching how far back the Keilty surname goes. > > Some > > >> of the other surnames of interest from the paperwork genealogy include > > >> Keilty, McShane, Quinn, Kelly (from County Roscommon, Ireland), > > Dubauskas > > >> (from Lithuania). > > >> If anyone could kindly point me in the right direction or refer me to > > >> someone it would be greatly appreciated. > > >> I would be pleased to provide any further information. > > >> Bernard Joseph Keilty Jr. > > >> ytliekb@yahoo.com > > >> R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > >> > > >> http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 5 > > > Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 18:04:32 -0400 > > > From: "John Carey" <johnca@quickclic.net> > > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Keilty surname research > > > To: <dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com> > > > Message-ID: <000001cc4d72$5496a0f0$fdc3e2d0$@quickclic.net> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > > > Bernard > > > > > > I'm not sure what you have searched already. I have some experience with > > > what Irish records exist for the 1800s so I may be able point you at > > some > > > resources but it isn't really connected to DNA so perhaps we should > > > connect > > > off-list. > > > > > > I did a quick search and found Michael and Sarah in the 1900 U.S. census > > > for > > > Watertown, Litchfield, along with eight of their children, a > > > daughter-in-law > > > and a grandchild. That census is useful because it contains some other > > > information. It says that Michael was born in April 1845 and Sarah in > > > March 1855, that they had been married 29 years and that they had nine > > > children, all of whom were still living in 1900. Michael says that he > > > immigrated in 1855 so it looks like they must have married in the U.S. > > > Michael also indicates that he is a naturalized citizen, so you might > > want > > > to look for his naturalization papers. However, in other censuses, the > > > birthdate implied from the age he gave is 1840 (1870), 1840 (1880) and > > > 1835 > > > (1910). > > > > > > Griffith's Valuation for Ireland lists 58 Keiltys in Ireland, of whom > > more > > > than one third are in Tyrone. The only Michaels in Tyrone were in > > > Kildress > > > parish in the Barony of Dungannon but these are unlikely to have been > > your > > > Michael since Griffith did his valuation around 1850 and your Michael was > > > likely too young to have owned or been leasing land. > > > > > > John Carey > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of tuulen > > > Sent: July-28-11 4:50 PM > > > To: Bernard Keilty; dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Keilty surname research > > > > > > Hi, Bernard, > > > > > > I am new to DNA-based family research, too. > > > > > > DNA can reveal many clues leading to useful information, but the > > immediate > > > difficulty is that nobody's family name has DNA. History books can tell > > > us > > > about ancient families, their names and the general area where they > > lived, > > > but, because names have no DNA, discovering any connection which may or > > > may > > > not exist between any of our names and those names of the past becomes a > > > matter of developing a well researched and accurate paper-trail based on > > > the > > > best information available. > > > > > > Then, as you may already know, individual and family records often can be > > > found, both in Ireland and in the US, from about the mid-19th century and > > > later, but earlier than that time becomes more random and records which > > do > > > exist sometimes can be confusing or misleading. And going back a few > > > hundred years could in many cases be extremely difficult or impossible. > > > > > > That is a fact which we all face. It is worthwhile to keep searching, > > but > > > be prepared for difficulties, to the extent of being big challenges. For > > > instance, my cousin is our family's historian, and it has taken him now > > > more > > > than 14 years to discover when our great-great-grandfather was born, but > > > we > > > still do not know where he was born. > > > > > > I wish you the best of good luck in your search! > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Bernard Keilty <ytliekb@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > > > > >> Hello, I just joined the list and figured out how to browse/search. I > > >> am new to DNA as well. I am really just a lurking sole who doesn't > > >> know what to do with all of the dna info as of yet. FTDNA tells us > > >> customers to read the tutorials. I have been researching Keilty family > > >> history for just a few years here in the USA (paperwork genealogy). > > >> > > >> I am trying to identify accurate information about the Keilty family > > >> from Ireland. > > >> I do know that my paternal great-grandfather "Michael Keilty" was > > >> supposed to have come from County Tyrone, Ireland and immigrated to > > >> the USA abt 1860 settling in Watertown, County Litchfield, > > >> Connecticut, 06795 USA. Michael Keilty was born 15 AUG 1838 (Tyrone?) > > >> Ireland, died 08 MAR 1923 and buried Mt St James Cemetery, Watertown, > > > County Litchfield, Connecticut, 06795 USA. > > >> Possibly from the parish of Kildress and diocese of Armagh. Michael > > >> was Catholic and his parents are possibly Patrick Keilty (1810-) and > > >> Catherine McShane (1818-) from Ireland. > > >> Michael Keilty (1838-1923) married Sarah Quinn (1854-1927), but it is > > >> not known whether married in Ireland or the USA. They had nine > > >> children and raised their family in Watertown, County Litchfield, > > > Connecticut, 06795 USA. > > >> I am interested in researching how far back the Keilty surname goes. > > >> Some of the other surnames of interest from the paperwork genealogy > > >> include Keilty, McShane, Quinn, Kelly (from County Roscommon, > > >> Ireland), Dubauskas (from Lithuania). > > >> If anyone could kindly point me in the right direction or refer me to > > >> someone it would be greatly appreciated. > > >> I would be pleased to provide any further information. > > >> Bernard Joseph Keilty Jr. > > >> ytliekb@yahoo.com > > >> R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > >> > > >> http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > > > > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > Message: 6 > > > Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 16:01:17 -0700 > > > From: "Allene Goforth" <agoforth@moscow.com> > > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Keilty surname research > > > To: <dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com> > > > Message-ID: <E076E66C1D9349AB8306B5A928DEF1CF@AllenePC> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > > > reply-type=original > > > > > > Bernard, > > > > > > In addition to the good advice you have already received, If you look in > > > the > > > M222 message archives, there is a wonderful series of posts from someone > > > on > > > how to do Irish research. She provided this information sometime over the > > > past year, but I can't remember who she is right now. Maybe she'll see > > > this > > > message and step forward to identify herself. > > > > > > Good luck with your research. > > > > > > Allene > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > End of DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 5, Issue 229 > > > ****************************************** > > > > > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message