Here's an email I just received from an M222 testee in Norway. Hello, My Name is Jan Storehaug - quite new to this project and the whole concept of DNA and heritage. I noted that "a very few individuals have been found in … Norway.." Well, here is one of them, me and my brother. Our relatives can be traced back many generations to the West of Norway - close to Sognefjorden : I can just speculate how we relate to Northern Ireland/ Scotland - but it is very fascinating to investigate :-) If anyone in this group had any interest in us being from Norway - or can provide any information about others - please give them my e-mail address. Best regards, Jan S _storehaug@gmail.com_ (mailto:storehaug@gmail.com) We do have some M222 from Scandinavian counties. I sent him a list from my own files. Norway is interesting in terms of M222. Everyone acknowledges there are some Scandinavian M222 samples yet whenever the subject arises the assumption is they must be captured Irish slaves or thralls (is that the right term?). I'm not so sure myself. The Capellli census of the British Isles found a few possible M222 haplotypes in Germany, Denmark and Norway (3). And there are some Scandinavian samples in the databases (Ysearch and Sorenson). Denmark SMGFMyrup SMGFJacobson Sweden CH83B Fryklöf Sweden SMGF NILLSON Sweden Iceland SMGF MYRES Iceland Germany QVDQ9 Brune Germany YZWJ9 Baker Bingen-on the Rhine, Germany WCZUU Lominac Lauterecken, Germany German Project (FTDNA) Willauer Germany German. Proj.(FTDNA) Diehl Germany SMGF Steiner Oberschlesion, Germany 32NVU Jaeckel Hesse-Darmstadt/Hessen-Darmstadt, Germany 59TV6 Hagan Germany SMGF Kohl Darmstadt, Hessen GMK33 Stoehr Roschbach, Palatinate/Pfalz, Germany 4MXVZ Stroup U.S. (German descent) PVTA8 Rotenberry Germany 3RPDB Shoemaker Germany There are probably more that can be found. Some of the German samples came from the U.S.and the owners think they are NPEs of some kind in the U.S.

My apologies. I thought I had fixed that Lominac-Lauterecken item. That Lominac/Laminack group from Lauterecken is J2b. My branch is an NPE from that group. After a recent match at 23 and me via a maternal line, it appears I have triangulated with an Irish Freeman line that is goes back some 4-5 centuries to England but not quite ready to publish that without more confirmation with the Freeman project folks. As of now, I'm simply Lominac/M222/South Carolina. Regards, Steve > From: Lochlan@aol.com > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:47:20 -0400 > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Subject: [R-M222] Norway > > Here's an email I just received from an M222 testee in Norway. > > Hello, > > > My Name is Jan Storehaug - quite new to this project and the whole concept > of DNA and heritage. I noted that "a very few individuals have been found in > … Norway.." Well, here is one of them, me and my brother. Our relatives > can be traced back many generations to the West of Norway - close to > Sognefjorden : I can just speculate how we relate to Northern Ireland/ Scotland - > but it is very fascinating to investigate :-) > If anyone in this group had any interest in us being from Norway - or can > provide any information about others - please give them my e-mail address. > > > Best regards, > > > Jan S > > _storehaug@gmail.com_ (mailto:storehaug@gmail.com) > > > We do have some M222 from Scandinavian counties. I sent him a list from > my own files. > > > Norway is interesting in terms of M222. Everyone acknowledges there are > some Scandinavian M222 samples yet whenever the subject arises the > assumption is they must be captured Irish slaves or thralls (is that the > right > term?). I'm not so sure myself. > > The Capellli census of the British Isles found a few possible M222 > haplotypes in Germany, Denmark and Norway (3). And there are some > Scandinavian > samples in the databases (Ysearch and Sorenson). > > Denmark > > SMGFMyrup > SMGFJacobson > > > Sweden > > CH83B Fryklöf Sweden > SMGF NILLSON Sweden > > Iceland > > SMGF MYRES Iceland > > Germany > > > QVDQ9 Brune Germany > YZWJ9 Baker Bingen-on the Rhine, Germany > WCZUU Lominac Lauterecken, Germany > German Project (FTDNA) Willauer Germany > German. Proj.(FTDNA) Diehl Germany > SMGF Steiner Oberschlesion, Germany > 32NVU Jaeckel Hesse-Darmstadt/Hessen-Darmstadt, Germany > 59TV6 Hagan Germany > SMGF Kohl Darmstadt, Hessen > GMK33 Stoehr Roschbach, Palatinate/Pfalz, Germany > 4MXVZ Stroup U.S. (German descent) > PVTA8 Rotenberry Germany > 3RPDB Shoemaker Germany > > > There are probably more that can be found. Some of the German samples > came from the U.S.and the owners think they are NPEs of some kind in the > U.S. > > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, The origin of the Morrison family, Mac Ghille Mhoire, claims that a Norwegian man, his Irish wife and their infant son were shipwrecked during their return from Norway to Ireland, and that they then fortunately made their way to the Isle of Lewis, then belonging to Norway. Today, DNA evidence confirms a linkage between Scandinavia and the Hebrides. Doug On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 9:47 PM, <Lochlan@aol.com> wrote: > Here's an email I just received from an M222 testee in Norway. > > Hello, > > > My Name is Jan Storehaug - quite new to this project and the whole concept > of DNA and heritage. I noted that "a very few individuals have been found > in > … Norway.." Well, here is one of them, me and my brother. Our relatives > can be traced back many generations to the West of Norway - close to > Sognefjorden : I can just speculate how we relate to Northern Ireland/ > Scotland - > but it is very fascinating to investigate :-) > If anyone in this group had any interest in us being from Norway - or can > provide any information about others - please give them my e-mail address. > > > Best regards, > > > Jan S > > _storehaug@gmail.com_ (mailto:storehaug@gmail.com) > > > We do have some M222 from Scandinavian counties. I sent him a list from > my own files. > > > Norway is interesting in terms of M222. Everyone acknowledges there are > some Scandinavian M222 samples yet whenever the subject arises the > assumption is they must be captured Irish slaves or thralls (is that the > right > term?). I'm not so sure myself. > > The Capellli census of the British Isles found a few possible M222 > haplotypes in Germany, Denmark and Norway (3). And there are some > Scandinavian > samples in the databases (Ysearch and Sorenson). > > Denmark > > SMGFMyrup > SMGFJacobson > > > Sweden > > CH83B Fryklöf Sweden > SMGF NILLSON Sweden > > Iceland > > SMGF MYRES Iceland > > Germany > > > QVDQ9 Brune Germany > YZWJ9 Baker Bingen-on the Rhine, Germany > WCZUU Lominac Lauterecken, Germany > German Project (FTDNA) Willauer Germany > German. Proj.(FTDNA) Diehl Germany > SMGF Steiner Oberschlesion, Germany > 32NVU Jaeckel Hesse-Darmstadt/Hessen-Darmstadt, Germany > 59TV6 Hagan Germany > SMGF Kohl Darmstadt, Hessen > GMK33 Stoehr Roschbach, Palatinate/Pfalz, Germany > 4MXVZ Stroup U.S. (German descent) > PVTA8 Rotenberry Germany > 3RPDB Shoemaker Germany > > > There are probably more that can be found. Some of the German samples > came from the U.S.and the owners think they are NPEs of some kind in the > U.S. > > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message