John, BTW, I just noticed something in your link to Connachta Clans: http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/connachta.htm It lists: *McConroi = King* This Gaelic name is also translated as "*Conroy*" of course, as well as Conry, Connery and so on. Did you compile this list yourself or got it from some other source? More here: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Conroy/default.aspx?section=ycolorized Cheers, Paul On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Bernard Morgan <bernardmorgan@hotmail.com>wrote: > > > Here are a few quotes from Lacey's book. He believes the northern Ui > > Neill (Cenel Conaill, Cenel Eoghain and Cenel Enda) did not move north > into > > Donegal as stated by all Irish historians but were Cruithin, > > One way to answer to the question is whether they share the same mutation. > > In ysearch.org sometime back I found Conlon NM4WF from Belfield, Co. > Westmeath who is M222+. Belfield is near Gaybrook and is within the former > lands of Clann Enna mac Laoghaire. The O'Conlon (O Caindelbain) are the > senior branch of Clann Enda mac Laogaire and of Cenel Laogaire in Midi. So > is Cenel Laogaire of the Southern Ui Neill M222+? > > > > From a DNA standpoint, I'm not sure we can yet say the northern and > > southern Ui Neill were related by blood in descent from Niall. Most of > the DNA > > we possess is either Connachta or northern Ui Neill in origin. Or just > plain > > of unknown origin. There is some in the south, O'Mulloys and Geoghegans, > > I think the Trinity study largely skipped over southern Ui Neill > surnames. > > In the following list I only see a few that might be southern Ui Neill. > > > > (O’)Gallagher (12), > > (O’)Boyle (9), (O’)Doherty (5), O’Donnell (4), O’Connor (3), Cannon > > (3), Bradley (2), O’Reilly (2), Flynn (2), (Mc)Kee (2), Campbell (1), > > Devlin (1), Donnelly (1), Egan (1), Gormley (1), Hynes (1), McCaul > > (1), McGovern (1), McLoughlin (1), McManus (1), McMenamin (1), > > Molloy (1), O’Kane (1), O’Rourke (1), and Quinn (1). > > > > Molloy might be one. McLoughlin another if the O Mailsechlainns of Meath > > were targeted. But that also could be MacLochlainn of Donegal. > > The Trinity report did not investigate the existance of M222+ amongst the > Southern Ui Neill? > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >