John, Yes, my name is Morrison, and until recently I had simply assumed that my father's family had originated somewhere in Scotland. That is, Morrison is a Scottish name, right? After all, who has ever heard of an Irish Morrison? Certainly, I had not! About the only thing I knew about my Morrison family was that a few generations had lived in Northern Ireland, and I blindly assumed that they had migrated there during the great British migration to the Plantation of Ulster in the early 17th century. But now after my research, including DNA evidence, the Family Tree database and Internet searches, it turns out that my assumption about my family's migration to the Plantation of Ulster could be true, after all, but in a way which I had never expected. And not only am I now aware of Irish Morrisons, but in fact I apparently am one! Just earlier today I sent a note to my cousin Kirk, he being my father's sister's son and he being the family historian, but I had the Y-DNA sample and so I got involved. Here is that note. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Kirk, I think my research has reached a reasonably good conclusion, for the moment, but I have run out of tangible avenues to explore, as all else then becomes based on speculation. Evidence upon evidence points to our Morrison family as having an Irish origin, at least in a genetic sense. We are Morrisons and our genetic origin is centered on Counties Donegal and Derry as they were perhaps a thousand years ago, or more. The question is just *when* we became Morrisons, for not only is there an historic Morrison family of northern Ulster, which in Ireland can be traced back about a thousand years, but it was from that same region of Ulster where many Irish migrants eventually settled in the Lowlands of Scotland, south of Glasgow. For instance, I am of a distinctly Irish haplotype subgroup known as R-M222, "Niall of the Nine Hostages", and research on that subgroup shows a current concentration of that subgroup's distribution as being centered not only in all of Ulster, but in all of Lowland Scotland, too. And both Ulster Ireland and Lowland Scotland have ancient, but unrelated, Morrison families. R-M222 has been identified as being of Irish origin, and then later distributed, particularly to Lowland Scotland. Therefore, my best speculation goes like this. 1) There is no doubt or question that we are genetically related to other families known to have populated northern Ulster a thousand years ago, and there is known to have been a similarly ancient O'Muirgheasain family there which eventually adopted the names Bryson and Morrison, and many variants thereof. Given that many Irish of that region are known to have eventually migrated to Lowland Scotland, and given that the Morrison name is also known to have existed as a Scottish name in Lowland Scotland, there is a possibility that Irish Morrisons could have migrated to Lowland Scotland and then could most naturally have identified themselves as Morrisons, there. Then, the Plantation of Ulster, beginning in the early 17th century, an event where significant numbers of British and particularly Scottish families and individuals migrated to what had by then become Northern Ireland, could have been when our Morrison family returned to Ireland, or by then Northern Ireland. 2) Alternatively, until our parents were born, Kirk, our Morrison family never left Ireland, at all. Most unfortunately, establishing any sort of a reliable family relationship paper-trail to only a few hundred years ago could be somewhere close to impossible, and highly unlikely. >From what I can see, apparently the O'Muirgheasain name vanished a few hundred years ago, or more. Apparently in its place, a circa 1650 census in Co. Donegal records an O'Mrisane, and apparently by then other variants of what eventually became the Morrison name were in use, too, eventually including O'Morrison. Just remember to include O' in your searches! ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ John, it seems fair to assume that I belong to an Irish Morrison family, originally. There is a possibility that my family could have migrated to Lowland Scotland and THEN have adopted the Morrison name, but if I were a gambler I would not bet on that. The odds are in favor of an Irish Morrison beginning, then POSSIBLY migrating to Scotland before eventually migrating back to Ireland in the 17th century, but then there are equal odds, if not greater odds, that my Morrison family never left Ireland, at all, until my grandfather migrated to Scotland where my father and his older sister were born, before my grandparents and their children migrated to the US where my cousins, younger brother and I were born. I can trace my father's family back to County Armagh where my g-g-grandfather was born in 1821, and his father was born in 1792, BUT I do not know where my g-g-g-grandfather was born. So, until further evidence appears, I can identify my genetic origin with confidence, but the origin of the Morrison name remains less certain, likely Irish, but only likely. Doug On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:10 PM, <Lochlan@aol.com> wrote: > > > In a message dated 7/18/2011 7:31:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > tuulen@gmail.com writes: > > So, when that message shows up on somebody's home page, then a > noticeable reference to the M222 page could be made at the same time, > a website link saying that the M222 project is the way for them to go. > > I suspect that's something that I would have to try and talk FTDNA into > doing. It's worth a try. > > You're a Morrison, aren't you? Any idea of where your ancestors came from > in Ireland? > > The reason I ask is Morrison is a common surname in the Donegal, Tyrone, > L'Derry area of NW Ireland. MacLysaght mentions it as an English surname, > but then goes on to state that Bryson is used as the anglicised form of O > Muirgeasain, first anglicised as O'Mrisane and later O'Morison. He states > Bryson is mainly found in Donegal and Derry. There's a similar reference > in > the "Gaelic Families of Co. Donegal", a chapter in Donegal history and > society. Apparently the O Muirgeasains were primarily associated with the > church. Thereis a referencee to them as herenaghs in Inishowen. > > The 1665 Hearth Money Rolls for Donegal have several spellings of the > name: > > o'Morison (Morison, Mreesan, O'Moressan) > > In the 1659 census the name is O Mrisane (7). > > This variation explains the Bryson use. It came from dropping the O in > Mrisane. > > Others are listed in a 1609 pardon list described by Brian Bonner as the > standing army of Sir Cahir O'Doherty. > > O Murghesan (O Murgesan) > > 1609 Inquisition at Liffer > > Clounemanny parish, containing 5 1/2 ballibetaghs of 4 qrs. each, of which > 6 qrs. > are church land, 3 of which were given in Collumkill's time, the bishop > receives > out of two of these 3 qrs. the like rents proportionably as out of the > herenagh > land in the preceding parishes, the third qr named Donally is free to > Donnogh O'Morreesen, who is the abbot's corbe and the bishop's herenagh of > those > qrs., the other 3 qrs. were given by the O'Dogherties and O'Donnells to > Collumkill as a dedication towards his vestments when he went to war, > which said > 3 qrs., together with the other third qr., being free, were given to the > ancestors > of the said Donogh, who were Collumkill's servants, and are now in the > possession > of sir Ralph Bingley, knt., the herenagh paid a yearly pension of 10s Eng. > to the bishop of Derry out of the bishop's thirds of the tithes, and > collected > all the bishop's duties in Enishowen; this parish has a parson, vicar, > tithes, and > repairs as in that of Faughan, the vicar has 3 gorts of glebe, and the > keeper of the > missagh or ornaments left by Collumkill has 4 gorts of glebe; > > Clonmany parish is in the Inishowen Peninsula, formerly called O'Doherty's > country. > > Bonner further describes them in "Where Aileach Guards" as "the collector > of the bishop's dues in Inish Eoghain (O Muireasain) and "Keepers of the > Miosach of Colm Cille (O Muireasain of Clonmany)". > > There is a pedigree in the O'Clery Book of Genealogies for (col. b) > Genelaigh o Muirghiusa, which would actually be O'Morrisey. MacLysaght > states > there are complications between this name and Morrison and refers to Irish > Families and More Irish families but I don't have copies of these. This > is a > Cenel Eoghain pedigree though. I don't know if it could apply to the > O'Morisons of Inishowen or not. > > 581. Aedh m Muiredhaigh m Donngusa m Duib uinsenn m Mail eoin m Ainbeith m > Fogartaigh m Mael roid m Fir moir m Muirghuisa (a raiter an sloinnedh) m > Cobhtaigh m Tnuthghail m Duibh doire m Sarain m Tighernaigh m Muiredaigh m > Eoghain. > > > >From the 1609 pardon list. > > > Donnough, Ferdorcha, and > > Donell O Murghesan, Owin O Murgesan, Art O Murghesan > Conor O Murgesan, > > > > John > > Most of these references came from my Clan McLaughlin web site. You might > be able to find more. > > _http://clanmaclochlainn.com/_ (http://clanmaclochlainn.com/) > > Many came from the section Donegal Soures. > > > > > > > > > > > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I used to think of Morrison as only Scottish too. Some Benbecula McPhersons in my project are matching to Morrisons on Pabbay and Harris in the Western Isles, but they are U106, not M222. They may have been in northern Ireland before they came to the Western Isles though. Allene

Hello, Allene, With thanks to the Internet, it did not take long for me to discover that in Scotland the Morrison name had been popularly adopted by at least a few, otherwise unrelated groups of people, and that historical records of any kind could be sketchy, inaccurate, or non-existant. I needed expert help, so I contacted the Morrison Society of North America, and I was invited to join the Morrison DNA research project, obviously necessary in order to tell what Morrison came from which Morrison family. But then came a colossal surprise. Yes, my name is Morrison, but I do not match any of the known Morrison DNA groups of the MSNA. Huh? What? At Family Tree, however, I do have one 35/37 match to another Morrison. He and I exchanged e-mail, and it turns out that his grandfather was from Northern Ireland. Small world, eh? I have not asked him, but if he and I joined the MSNA, then we would form the FIRST Irish Morrison group in the history of the MSNA. But really, there could be Scottish Morrisons who could be interested to learn of the existence of Irish Morrisons, just as I did. There really are Irish Morrisons, and apparently I am one of them! Let me add that I have exchanged many e-mails about all of this with the Secretary of the MSNA, and he has been very supportive. Doug On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:25 AM, Allene Goforth <agoforth@moscow.com>wrote: > I used to think of Morrison as only Scottish too. Some Benbecula > McPhersons in my project are matching to Morrisons on Pabbay and Harris > in the Western Isles, but they are U106, not M222. They may have been in > northern Ireland before they came to the Western Isles though. > > Allene > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I've heard of at least one prominent Irish Morrison, Marion Mitchell Morrison aka the American actor, John Wayne...According to Wiki his 2nd great grandfather was born in Northern Ireland and emigrated to America in 1782. "Wayne was born Marion Robert Morrison in Winterset, Iowa.[4] His middle name was soon changed from Robert to Mitchell when his parents decided to name their next son Robert.[5][6][7][8][9] Wayne's father, Clyde Leonard Morrison (1884–1937), was the son of American Civil War veteran Marion Mitchell Morrison (1845–1915). Wayne's mother, the former Mary "Molly" Alberta Brown (1885–1970), was from Lancaster County, Nebraska. Wayne was of Presbyterian Scots-Irish descent through his second great-grandfather Robert Morrison, who was born in County Antrim, Northern Ireland and emigrated to the United States in 1782.[10][11]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne > Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:11:50 -0400 > From: tuulen@gmail.com > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [R-M222] New Tactics > > John, > > Yes, my name is Morrison, and until recently I had simply assumed that my > father's family had originated somewhere in Scotland. That is, Morrison is > a Scottish name, right? After all, who has ever heard of an Irish Morrison? > Certainly, I had not! > > About the only thing I knew about my Morrison family was that a few > generations had lived in Northern Ireland, and I blindly assumed that they > had migrated there during the great British migration to the Plantation of > Ulster in the early 17th century. > > But now after my research, including DNA evidence, the Family Tree database > and Internet searches, it turns out that my assumption about my family's > migration to the Plantation of Ulster could be true, after all, but in a way > which I had never expected. And not only am I now aware of Irish Morrisons, > but in fact I apparently am one! > > Just earlier today I sent a note to my cousin Kirk, he being my father's > sister's son and he being the family historian, but I had the Y-DNA sample > and so I got involved. Here is that note. > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Kirk, > > I think my research has reached a reasonably good conclusion, for the > moment, but I have run out of tangible avenues to explore, as all else then > becomes based on speculation. > > Evidence upon evidence points to our Morrison family as having an Irish > origin, at least in a genetic sense. We are Morrisons and our genetic > origin is centered on Counties Donegal and Derry as they were perhaps a > thousand years ago, or more. The question is just *when* we became > Morrisons, for not only is there an historic Morrison family of northern > Ulster, which in Ireland can be traced back about a thousand years, but it > was from that same region of Ulster where many Irish migrants eventually > settled in the Lowlands of Scotland, south of Glasgow. For instance, I am > of a distinctly Irish haplotype subgroup known as R-M222, "Niall of the Nine > Hostages", and research on that subgroup shows a current concentration of > that subgroup's distribution as being centered not only in all of Ulster, > but in all of Lowland Scotland, too. And both Ulster Ireland and Lowland > Scotland have ancient, but unrelated, Morrison families. > > R-M222 has been identified as being of Irish origin, and then later > distributed, particularly to Lowland Scotland. > > Therefore, my best speculation goes like this. 1) There is no doubt or > question that we are genetically related to other families known to have > populated northern Ulster a thousand years ago, and there is known to have > been a similarly ancient O'Muirgheasain family there which eventually > adopted the names Bryson and Morrison, and many variants thereof. Given > that many Irish of that region are known to have eventually migrated to > Lowland Scotland, and given that the Morrison name is also known to have > existed as a Scottish name in Lowland Scotland, there is a possibility that > Irish Morrisons could have migrated to Lowland Scotland and then could most > naturally have identified themselves as Morrisons, there. Then, the > Plantation of Ulster, beginning in the early 17th century, an event where > significant numbers of British and particularly Scottish families and > individuals migrated to what had by then become Northern Ireland, could have > been when our Morrison family returned to Ireland, or by then Northern > Ireland. 2) Alternatively, until our parents were born, Kirk, our Morrison > family never left Ireland, at all. > > Most unfortunately, establishing any sort of a reliable family relationship > paper-trail to only a few hundred years ago could be somewhere close to > impossible, and highly unlikely. > > >From what I can see, apparently the O'Muirgheasain name vanished a few > hundred years ago, or more. Apparently in its place, a circa 1650 census in > Co. Donegal records an O'Mrisane, and apparently by then other variants of > what eventually became the Morrison name were in use, too, eventually > including O'Morrison. Just remember to include O' in your searches! > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > John, it seems fair to assume that I belong to an Irish Morrison family, > originally. There is a possibility that my family could have migrated to > Lowland Scotland and THEN have adopted the Morrison name, but if I were a > gambler I would not bet on that. The odds are in favor of an Irish Morrison > beginning, then POSSIBLY migrating to Scotland before eventually migrating > back to Ireland in the 17th century, but then there are equal odds, if not > greater odds, that my Morrison family never left Ireland, at all, until my > grandfather migrated to Scotland where my father and his older sister were > born, before my grandparents and their children migrated to the US where my > cousins, younger brother and I were born. > > I can trace my father's family back to County Armagh where my > g-g-grandfather was born in 1821, and his father was born in 1792, BUT I do > not know where my g-g-g-grandfather was born. > > So, until further evidence appears, I can identify my genetic origin with > confidence, but the origin of the Morrison name remains less certain, likely > Irish, but only likely. > > Doug > > > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:10 PM, <Lochlan@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/18/2011 7:31:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > tuulen@gmail.com writes: > > > > So, when that message shows up on somebody's home page, then a > > noticeable reference to the M222 page could be made at the same time, > > a website link saying that the M222 project is the way for them to go. > > > > I suspect that's something that I would have to try and talk FTDNA into > > doing. It's worth a try. > > > > You're a Morrison, aren't you? Any idea of where your ancestors came from > > in Ireland? > > > > The reason I ask is Morrison is a common surname in the Donegal, Tyrone, > > L'Derry area of NW Ireland. MacLysaght mentions it as an English surname, > > but then goes on to state that Bryson is used as the anglicised form of O > > Muirgeasain, first anglicised as O'Mrisane and later O'Morison. He states > > Bryson is mainly found in Donegal and Derry. There's a similar reference > > in > > the "Gaelic Families of Co. Donegal", a chapter in Donegal history and > > society. Apparently the O Muirgeasains were primarily associated with the > > church. Thereis a referencee to them as herenaghs in Inishowen. > > > > The 1665 Hearth Money Rolls for Donegal have several spellings of the > > name: > > > > o'Morison (Morison, Mreesan, O'Moressan) > > > > In the 1659 census the name is O Mrisane (7). > > > > This variation explains the Bryson use. It came from dropping the O in > > Mrisane. > > > > Others are listed in a 1609 pardon list described by Brian Bonner as the > > standing army of Sir Cahir O'Doherty. > > > > O Murghesan (O Murgesan) > > > > 1609 Inquisition at Liffer > > > > Clounemanny parish, containing 5 1/2 ballibetaghs of 4 qrs. each, of which > > 6 qrs. > > are church land, 3 of which were given in Collumkill's time, the bishop > > receives > > out of two of these 3 qrs. the like rents proportionably as out of the > > herenagh > > land in the preceding parishes, the third qr named Donally is free to > > Donnogh O'Morreesen, who is the abbot's corbe and the bishop's herenagh of > > those > > qrs., the other 3 qrs. were given by the O'Dogherties and O'Donnells to > > Collumkill as a dedication towards his vestments when he went to war, > > which said > > 3 qrs., together with the other third qr., being free, were given to the > > ancestors > > of the said Donogh, who were Collumkill's servants, and are now in the > > possession > > of sir Ralph Bingley, knt., the herenagh paid a yearly pension of 10s Eng. > > to the bishop of Derry out of the bishop's thirds of the tithes, and > > collected > > all the bishop's duties in Enishowen; this parish has a parson, vicar, > > tithes, and > > repairs as in that of Faughan, the vicar has 3 gorts of glebe, and the > > keeper of the > > missagh or ornaments left by Collumkill has 4 gorts of glebe; > > > > Clonmany parish is in the Inishowen Peninsula, formerly called O'Doherty's > > country. > > > > Bonner further describes them in "Where Aileach Guards" as "the collector > > of the bishop's dues in Inish Eoghain (O Muireasain) and "Keepers of the > > Miosach of Colm Cille (O Muireasain of Clonmany)". > > > > There is a pedigree in the O'Clery Book of Genealogies for (col. b) > > Genelaigh o Muirghiusa, which would actually be O'Morrisey. MacLysaght > > states > > there are complications between this name and Morrison and refers to Irish > > Families and More Irish families but I don't have copies of these. This > > is a > > Cenel Eoghain pedigree though. I don't know if it could apply to the > > O'Morisons of Inishowen or not. > > > > 581. Aedh m Muiredhaigh m Donngusa m Duib uinsenn m Mail eoin m Ainbeith m > > Fogartaigh m Mael roid m Fir moir m Muirghuisa (a raiter an sloinnedh) m > > Cobhtaigh m Tnuthghail m Duibh doire m Sarain m Tighernaigh m Muiredaigh m > > Eoghain. > > > > > > >From the 1609 pardon list. > > > > > > Donnough, Ferdorcha, and > > > > Donell O Murghesan, Owin O Murgesan, Art O Murghesan > > Conor O Murgesan, > > > > > > > > John > > > > Most of these references came from my Clan McLaughlin web site. You might > > be able to find more. > > > > _http://clanmaclochlainn.com/_ (http://clanmaclochlainn.com/) > > > > Many came from the section Donegal Soures. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Steven, Before my recent discovery that I am Irish, and that my Morrison family likely is Irish, not certainly but likely, I had never heard of an Irish Morrison. However, when the Secretary of the Morrison Society of North America heard that my family was from Northern Ireland, or at least the few generations of it that I was aware of, he told me that he was particularly interested in the results of my Y-DNA test because his Morrison family was from Northern Ireland, too, County Antrim. But let me give him credit as a good man, as he remained supportive of my research even after it became clear that I likely am not a Scottish Morrison but an Irish Morrison. And another Irish Morrison and I could be the first of our kind at the MSNA. Whereas until recently I had never heard of an Irish Morrison, I am now acutely aware of the distinction between Irish and Scottish Morrisons, of same name but different families. Doug On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Steven Lominac <stevelominac@hotmail.com>wrote: > > I've heard of at least one prominent Irish Morrison, Marion Mitchell > Morrison aka the American actor, John Wayne...According to Wiki his 2nd > great grandfather was born in Northern Ireland and emigrated to America in > 1782. > > "Wayne was born Marion Robert Morrison in Winterset, Iowa.[4] His middle > name was soon changed from Robert to Mitchell when his parents decided to > name their next son Robert.[5][6][7][8][9] > Wayne's father, Clyde Leonard Morrison (1884–1937), was the son of American > Civil War veteran Marion Mitchell Morrison (1845–1915). Wayne's mother, the > former Mary "Molly" Alberta Brown (1885–1970), was from Lancaster County, > Nebraska. Wayne was of Presbyterian Scots-Irish descent through his second > great-grandfather Robert Morrison, who was born in County Antrim, Northern > Ireland and emigrated to the United States in 1782.[10][11]" > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:11:50 -0400 > > From: tuulen@gmail.com > > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] New Tactics > > > > John, > > > > Yes, my name is Morrison, and until recently I had simply assumed that my > > father's family had originated somewhere in Scotland. That is, Morrison > is > > a Scottish name, right? After all, who has ever heard of an Irish > Morrison? > > Certainly, I had not! > > > > About the only thing I knew about my Morrison family was that a few > > generations had lived in Northern Ireland, and I blindly assumed that > they > > had migrated there during the great British migration to the Plantation > of > > Ulster in the early 17th century. > > > > But now after my research, including DNA evidence, the Family Tree > database > > and Internet searches, it turns out that my assumption about my family's > > migration to the Plantation of Ulster could be true, after all, but in a > way > > which I had never expected. And not only am I now aware of Irish > Morrisons, > > but in fact I apparently am one! > > > > Just earlier today I sent a note to my cousin Kirk, he being my father's > > sister's son and he being the family historian, but I had the Y-DNA > sample > > and so I got involved. Here is that note. > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > > > Kirk, > > > > I think my research has reached a reasonably good conclusion, for the > > moment, but I have run out of tangible avenues to explore, as all else > then > > becomes based on speculation. > > > > Evidence upon evidence points to our Morrison family as having an Irish > > origin, at least in a genetic sense. We are Morrisons and our genetic > > origin is centered on Counties Donegal and Derry as they were perhaps a > > thousand years ago, or more. The question is just *when* we became > > Morrisons, for not only is there an historic Morrison family of northern > > Ulster, which in Ireland can be traced back about a thousand years, but > it > > was from that same region of Ulster where many Irish migrants eventually > > settled in the Lowlands of Scotland, south of Glasgow. For instance, I am > > of a distinctly Irish haplotype subgroup known as R-M222, "Niall of the > Nine > > Hostages", and research on that subgroup shows a current concentration of > > that subgroup's distribution as being centered not only in all of Ulster, > > but in all of Lowland Scotland, too. And both Ulster Ireland and Lowland > > Scotland have ancient, but unrelated, Morrison families. > > > > R-M222 has been identified as being of Irish origin, and then later > > distributed, particularly to Lowland Scotland. > > > > Therefore, my best speculation goes like this. 1) There is no doubt or > > question that we are genetically related to other families known to have > > populated northern Ulster a thousand years ago, and there is known to > have > > been a similarly ancient O'Muirgheasain family there which eventually > > adopted the names Bryson and Morrison, and many variants thereof. Given > > that many Irish of that region are known to have eventually migrated to > > Lowland Scotland, and given that the Morrison name is also known to have > > existed as a Scottish name in Lowland Scotland, there is a possibility > that > > Irish Morrisons could have migrated to Lowland Scotland and then could > most > > naturally have identified themselves as Morrisons, there. Then, the > > Plantation of Ulster, beginning in the early 17th century, an event where > > significant numbers of British and particularly Scottish families and > > individuals migrated to what had by then become Northern Ireland, could > have > > been when our Morrison family returned to Ireland, or by then Northern > > Ireland. 2) Alternatively, until our parents were born, Kirk, our > Morrison > > family never left Ireland, at all. > > > > Most unfortunately, establishing any sort of a reliable family > relationship > > paper-trail to only a few hundred years ago could be somewhere close to > > impossible, and highly unlikely. > > > > >From what I can see, apparently the O'Muirgheasain name vanished a few > > hundred years ago, or more. Apparently in its place, a circa 1650 census > in > > Co. Donegal records an O'Mrisane, and apparently by then other variants > of > > what eventually became the Morrison name were in use, too, eventually > > including O'Morrison. Just remember to include O' in your searches! > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > > > John, it seems fair to assume that I belong to an Irish Morrison family, > > originally. There is a possibility that my family could have migrated to > > Lowland Scotland and THEN have adopted the Morrison name, but if I were a > > gambler I would not bet on that. The odds are in favor of an Irish > Morrison > > beginning, then POSSIBLY migrating to Scotland before eventually > migrating > > back to Ireland in the 17th century, but then there are equal odds, if > not > > greater odds, that my Morrison family never left Ireland, at all, until > my > > grandfather migrated to Scotland where my father and his older sister > were > > born, before my grandparents and their children migrated to the US where > my > > cousins, younger brother and I were born. > > > > I can trace my father's family back to County Armagh where my > > g-g-grandfather was born in 1821, and his father was born in 1792, BUT I > do > > not know where my g-g-g-grandfather was born. > > > > So, until further evidence appears, I can identify my genetic origin with > > confidence, but the origin of the Morrison name remains less certain, > likely > > Irish, but only likely. > > > > Doug > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:10 PM, <Lochlan@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 7/18/2011 7:31:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > > > tuulen@gmail.com writes: > > > > > > So, when that message shows up on somebody's home page, then a > > > noticeable reference to the M222 page could be made at the same time, > > > a website link saying that the M222 project is the way for them to go. > > > > > > I suspect that's something that I would have to try and talk FTDNA into > > > doing. It's worth a try. > > > > > > You're a Morrison, aren't you? Any idea of where your ancestors came > from > > > in Ireland? > > > > > > The reason I ask is Morrison is a common surname in the Donegal, > Tyrone, > > > L'Derry area of NW Ireland. MacLysaght mentions it as an English > surname, > > > but then goes on to state that Bryson is used as the anglicised form of > O > > > Muirgeasain, first anglicised as O'Mrisane and later O'Morison. He > states > > > Bryson is mainly found in Donegal and Derry. There's a similar > reference > > > in > > > the "Gaelic Families of Co. Donegal", a chapter in Donegal history and > > > society. Apparently the O Muirgeasains were primarily associated with > the > > > church. Thereis a referencee to them as herenaghs in Inishowen. > > > > > > The 1665 Hearth Money Rolls for Donegal have several spellings of the > > > name: > > > > > > o'Morison (Morison, Mreesan, O'Moressan) > > > > > > In the 1659 census the name is O Mrisane (7). > > > > > > This variation explains the Bryson use. It came from dropping the O in > > > Mrisane. > > > > > > Others are listed in a 1609 pardon list described by Brian Bonner as > the > > > standing army of Sir Cahir O'Doherty. > > > > > > O Murghesan (O Murgesan) > > > > > > 1609 Inquisition at Liffer > > > > > > Clounemanny parish, containing 5 1/2 ballibetaghs of 4 qrs. each, of > which > > > 6 qrs. > > > are church land, 3 of which were given in Collumkill's time, the bishop > > > receives > > > out of two of these 3 qrs. the like rents proportionably as out of the > > > herenagh > > > land in the preceding parishes, the third qr named Donally is free to > > > Donnogh O'Morreesen, who is the abbot's corbe and the bishop's herenagh > of > > > those > > > qrs., the other 3 qrs. were given by the O'Dogherties and O'Donnells to > > > Collumkill as a dedication towards his vestments when he went to war, > > > which said > > > 3 qrs., together with the other third qr., being free, were given to > the > > > ancestors > > > of the said Donogh, who were Collumkill's servants, and are now in the > > > possession > > > of sir Ralph Bingley, knt., the herenagh paid a yearly pension of 10s > Eng. > > > to the bishop of Derry out of the bishop's thirds of the tithes, and > > > collected > > > all the bishop's duties in Enishowen; this parish has a parson, vicar, > > > tithes, and > > > repairs as in that of Faughan, the vicar has 3 gorts of glebe, and the > > > keeper of the > > > missagh or ornaments left by Collumkill has 4 gorts of glebe; > > > > > > Clonmany parish is in the Inishowen Peninsula, formerly called > O'Doherty's > > > country. > > > > > > Bonner further describes them in "Where Aileach Guards" as "the > collector > > > of the bishop's dues in Inish Eoghain (O Muireasain) and "Keepers of > the > > > Miosach of Colm Cille (O Muireasain of Clonmany)". > > > > > > There is a pedigree in the O'Clery Book of Genealogies for (col. b) > > > Genelaigh o Muirghiusa, which would actually be O'Morrisey. MacLysaght > > > states > > > there are complications between this name and Morrison and refers to > Irish > > > Families and More Irish families but I don't have copies of these. This > > > is a > > > Cenel Eoghain pedigree though. I don't know if it could apply to the > > > O'Morisons of Inishowen or not. > > > > > > 581. Aedh m Muiredhaigh m Donngusa m Duib uinsenn m Mail eoin m > Ainbeith m > > > Fogartaigh m Mael roid m Fir moir m Muirghuisa (a raiter an sloinnedh) > m > > > Cobhtaigh m Tnuthghail m Duibh doire m Sarain m Tighernaigh m > Muiredaigh m > > > Eoghain. > > > > > > > > > >From the 1609 pardon list. > > > > > > > > > Donnough, Ferdorcha, and > > > > > > Donell O Murghesan, Owin O Murgesan, Art O Murghesan > > > Conor O Murgesan, > > > > > > > > > > > > John > > > > > > Most of these references came from my Clan McLaughlin web site. 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