In a message dated 7/29/2011 11:15:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, raaq@live.com writes: What can I learn from the FTDNA Haplotree page My Matches, John? I have "exact" matches with 10 "people", 6 from Ireland, from R1b1a2a1a1b4b. I am said to be R1b1a2.I have a bunch more with 1-step mutations, with the same, R1b1a2a1a1b4b Haplogroup, most of them from Ireland, 136 out of less than 200 "matches .What can I draw from that other than that I appear to be Irish and in the Ribia2 area? Does it indicate my ancestors pretty far back were from Orkney or Scandinavia or anything specific? Regards, Bob I just checked your matches on your personal page. Every one of them is a Quinn from 12-25 markers, none at 37, and a Coyne at 67. One of the matches is spelled Gwinn. Coyne and Gwinn are interesting. They're close enough a variant that all might be from the same suirname cluster. Those are just matches from the Quinn project though. I personally don't pay any attention to matches at less than 67 markers. For all your matches reported by FTDNA I see a couple of Coyne matches again at the 67 marker level. Plus a McAmis. Otherwise I just see a handful of surnames with no obvious connection (Evans, McNitt, McHargue, Lagan, Gilbert) at 37 markers. I recognize a couple of these surnames from work done in the past (MacNitt, McHargue). I think both of these can be found in or around Donegal/Tyrone in Ulster but I have no idea of the origin of either surname. Is McHargue the same as Maharg? MacLysaght derives that from MacIlhagga (Mac Giolla Chairge) He states the Scottish form is Mac Giolla Domhnaigh, a Scottish surname found in Antrim and Derry. McNitt may also be a Scottish surname. And then you have Coyne, a sept of the Ui Fiachrach in Mayo. There were Irish septs of the name Quinn all over the place. Without some definite location I think we're just guessing at origins. If some of the Quinn matches can be placed in definite locations in Ireland or Scotland then you might have something to go on. You need some kind of county reference to have any real idea of what the surname might mean. John

Thanks, John. Bob Bob Quinn President&CEO Quinn Specialty Chemical Consultants Partner at Bay Street Investors/Bay Street Partners Co-Chair ACS GCI Manufacturer's Roundtable 27 Langton Lane Newtown Square, Pa, 19073 T:610-331-4920 e-mail:raaq@live.com Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/bobquinnspecialtychemicals > From: Lochlan@aol.com > Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 20:08:49 -0400 > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com; ytliekb@yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Keilty surname research > > > > In a message dated 7/29/2011 11:15:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > raaq@live.com writes: > > What can I learn from the FTDNA Haplotree page My Matches, John? I have > "exact" matches with 10 "people", 6 from Ireland, from R1b1a2a1a1b4b. I am > said to be R1b1a2.I have a bunch more with 1-step mutations, with the same, > R1b1a2a1a1b4b Haplogroup, most of them from Ireland, 136 out of less than > 200 "matches .What can I draw from that other than that I appear to be Irish > and in the Ribia2 area? Does it indicate my ancestors pretty far back were > from Orkney or Scandinavia or anything specific? Regards, Bob > > I just checked your matches on your personal page. Every one of them is a > Quinn from 12-25 markers, none at 37, and a Coyne at 67. One of the > matches is spelled Gwinn. Coyne and Gwinn are interesting. They're close enough > a variant that all might be from the same suirname cluster. Those are > just matches from the Quinn project though. > > I personally don't pay any attention to matches at less than 67 markers. > For all your matches reported by FTDNA I see a couple of Coyne matches > again at the 67 marker level. Plus a McAmis. Otherwise I just see a handful of > surnames with no obvious connection (Evans, McNitt, McHargue, Lagan, > Gilbert) at 37 markers. I recognize a couple of these surnames from work done in > the past (MacNitt, McHargue). I think both of these can be found in or > around Donegal/Tyrone in Ulster but I have no idea of the origin of either > surname. > > Is McHargue the same as Maharg? MacLysaght derives that from MacIlhagga > (Mac Giolla Chairge) He states the Scottish form is Mac Giolla Domhnaigh, a > Scottish surname found in Antrim and Derry. McNitt may also be a Scottish > surname. > > And then you have Coyne, a sept of the Ui Fiachrach in Mayo. There were > Irish septs of the name Quinn all over the place. > > Without some definite location I think we're just guessing at origins. If > some of the Quinn matches can be placed in definite locations in Ireland > or Scotland then you might have something to go on. You need some kind of > county reference to have any real idea of what the surname might mean. > > > > John > > > > > > > > > R1b1c7 Research and Links: > > http://clanmaclochlainn.com/R1b1c7/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message