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Hi all, Yeah, hacking attacks must be taken seriously, and such attacks can be sneaky. Yeah, we all enjoy the Internet, but it indeed does have its risks, so be aware. Doug On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 7:57 PM, David Wilson <dcw1000@live.com> wrote: > Please do not open the link in the message to which this reply is appended. > A legitimate member's email has been hacked. I have notified RootsWeb and > the member of the problem. > > This kind of problem travels in packs, so please keep an eye out for other > posts that may be links to malware sites. Do NOT click on any link in a > message that has no apparent relevance to the focus of this list. > > Thank you, > > David Wilson > > -----Original Message----- > From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Callahan > Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 4:16 PM > To: RootsWeb M222; RootsWeb M222 > Subject: [R-M222] (no subject) > > > > > Yo RootsWeb M222 > > > <spam link deleted by moderator> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Please do not open the link in the message to which this reply is appended. A legitimate member's email has been hacked. I have notified RootsWeb and the member of the problem. This kind of problem travels in packs, so please keep an eye out for other posts that may be links to malware sites. Do NOT click on any link in a message that has no apparent relevance to the focus of this list. Thank you, David Wilson -----Original Message----- From: dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dna-r1b1c7-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brian Callahan Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 4:16 PM To: RootsWeb M222; RootsWeb M222 Subject: [R-M222] (no subject) Yo RootsWeb M222 <spam link deleted by moderator> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's a possibility, Flatley and Loughney were both S660+ as well, so it could point to Uí Fhiachrach as S660+ in general. We really need someone with an Uí Bhriúin surname to test (Rourke, O'Connor, Concannon). If you got an Uí Bhriúin S660+ then things would get interesting. Brion and Fiachrae after all were supposedly Niall's half-brothers. -Paul (DF41+) On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Bernard Morgan <bernardmorgan@hotmail.com>wrote: > What the O'Shaughnessy result suggest that A259, A260 marks a branch of Ui > Fiachrach? > > > >From Irish Names and Surnames 1923 by Fr Woulfe > Ó SEACHNASAIGH—I—O'Shaughnessy, O'Shoughnessy, O'Shannessy, O'Shanesy, > Shaughnessy, Shannessy, &c.; 'descendant of Seachnasach'; the name of a > branch of the Ui Fiachrach Aidhne, in Co. Galway. On the decline of the > kindred family of O'Cahill in the 13th century, the O'Shaughnessys became > chiefs of Cinel Aodha, anglicised Kinelea, the district lying around the > town of Gort; but they are only rarely mentioned in the Irish annals before > the reign of Henry VIII. In 1533, Dermot O'Shaughnessy, the then 'chief of > his nation,' was knighted, and ten years later he surrendered all the > clan-lands to the crown in order to receive them back by letters-patent. > > > > > > I have permission to share the Big Y "raw results" for these three A259, > > A260 folks. This does not give me access to the .bam files but does > include > > the .vcf and .bed files, which still has a lot of info. That's what I > > import in the the discovery comparison spreadsheet > > > > f36712 O'Shaughnessy > > f88905 Degnen > > f56154 Howle > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Where would I find R1b-L21_SNP_Tree_Discovery comparison spreadsheet? I couldn't find in https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/R1b-L21-Project/files .

The same issues apply to all the ones that came in the other day. I'm not authorised to say any more; no one finds this more frustrating than I do. Iain > From: bernardmorgan@hotmail.com > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 14:36:09 +0000 > Subject: [R-M222] Dunbar Result > > I see the Dunbar 205549 Big Y result have been uploaded to the L21 project. Do we know what his terminal SNP is? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

What the O'Shaughnessy result suggest that A259, A260 marks a branch of Ui Fiachrach? >From Irish Names and Surnames 1923 by Fr Woulfe Ó SEACHNASAIGH—I—O'Shaughnessy, O'Shoughnessy, O'Shannessy, O'Shanesy, Shaughnessy, Shannessy, &c.; 'descendant of Seachnasach'; the name of a branch of the Ui Fiachrach Aidhne, in Co. Galway. On the decline of the kindred family of O'Cahill in the 13th century, the O'Shaughnessys became chiefs of Cinel Aodha, anglicised Kinelea, the district lying around the town of Gort; but they are only rarely mentioned in the Irish annals before the reign of Henry VIII. In 1533, Dermot O'Shaughnessy, the then 'chief of his nation,' was knighted, and ten years later he surrendered all the clan-lands to the crown in order to receive them back by letters-patent. > > I have permission to share the Big Y "raw results" for these three A259, > A260 folks. This does not give me access to the .bam files but does include > the .vcf and .bed files, which still has a lot of info. That's what I > import in the the discovery comparison spreadsheet > > f36712 O'Shaughnessy > f88905 Degnen > f56154 Howle >

I see the Dunbar 205549 Big Y result have been uploaded to the L21 project. Do we know what his terminal SNP is?

Hi. Here are my FGC SNPs that are available to order on YSEQ. - Aidan. FGC449 FGC4103 FGC4104 FGC4106 FGC4107 FGC4108 FGC4109 FGC4110 FGC4111 FGC4112 FGC4113 FGC4114 FGC4115

Generally results are only uploaded to L21 group if they have given permission. It might however be worthwhile to get someone to email him directly, he mightn't be on this list for example. -Paul (DF41+) On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Iain Kennedy <ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com>wrote: > To be more direct, if Mr. O'Shaughnessy would like to make himself known > to me I can do more work on his data. > > Iain > > > > > > > From: ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com > > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 12:30:30 +0000 > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] O'Shaughnessy result > > > > I was told by David Wilson a few days ago that he is A259/A260, however > no permission has been given to me to do anything with it and I have no > access to the file hence its not been added to the public tree. > > > > Iain > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bernardmorgan@hotmail.com > > > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > > > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 12:05:51 +0000 > > > Subject: [R-M222] O'Shaughnessy result > > > > > > I see the O'Shaughnessy Big Y result have been uploaded to the L21 > project. Do we know what his terminal SNP is? > > > > > > File : /Big_Y_results/M222_36712_O'Shaughnessy_Big_Y_20140522.zip > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I believe David Wilson already tried that - he has access to project email addresses and I don't of course. Iain > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 13:53:41 +0100 > From: pduffy81@gmail.com > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [R-M222] O'Shaughnessy result > > Generally results are only uploaded to L21 group if they have given > permission. It might however be worthwhile to get someone to email him > directly, he mightn't be on this list for example. > > -Paul > (DF41+) > > > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Iain Kennedy <ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com>wrote: > > > To be more direct, if Mr. O'Shaughnessy would like to make himself known > > to me I can do more work on his data. > > > > Iain > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com > > > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > > > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 12:30:30 +0000 > > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] O'Shaughnessy result > > > > > > I was told by David Wilson a few days ago that he is A259/A260, however > > no permission has been given to me to do anything with it and I have no > > access to the file hence its not been added to the public tree. > > > > > > Iain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: bernardmorgan@hotmail.com > > > > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > > > > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 12:05:51 +0000 > > > > Subject: [R-M222] O'Shaughnessy result > > > > > > > > I see the O'Shaughnessy Big Y result have been uploaded to the L21 > > project. Do we know what his terminal SNP is? > > > > > > > > File : /Big_Y_results/M222_36712_O'Shaughnessy_Big_Y_20140522.zip > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Paul I don't know who created this panel (not me!), its been knocking around for a while now. Two of them are private Kennedy markers but are marked on my tree. FGC4111 is one of Aidan Byrne's private SNPs I believe. FGC449 is another name for S7072 and I believe we are all positive for it, ditto Z2968 which is one of the so-called 'M222 equivalents'. The rest are on the tree as you name them. Iain > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 12:28:55 +0000 > From: pabloburns@comcast.net > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Subject: [R-M222] Testing for SNPs Downstream of M222 > > I see that for $349 YSEQ will test a panel of 24 SNPs downstream of M222. Is there a tree chart available that shows how these connect? It would be interesting to compare such a chart with Iain Kennedy's tree that I believe is based on Chromo2. > The SNPs on YSEQ's panel are: > DF104 > DF85 > DF97 > F1265 > FGC4077 > FGC4078 > FGC4111 > FGC449 > FGC5856 > FGC5870 > S568 > S588 > S590 > S595 > S597 > S603 > S658 > S660 > S668 > S668 > S673 > S7050 > S7814 > Z2968 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To be more direct, if Mr. O'Shaughnessy would like to make himself known to me I can do more work on his data. Iain > From: ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 12:30:30 +0000 > Subject: Re: [R-M222] O'Shaughnessy result > > I was told by David Wilson a few days ago that he is A259/A260, however no permission has been given to me to do anything with it and I have no access to the file hence its not been added to the public tree. > > Iain > > > > > > > From: bernardmorgan@hotmail.com > > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 12:05:51 +0000 > > Subject: [R-M222] O'Shaughnessy result > > > > I see the O'Shaughnessy Big Y result have been uploaded to the L21 project. Do we know what his terminal SNP is? > > > > File : /Big_Y_results/M222_36712_O'Shaughnessy_Big_Y_20140522.zip > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I was told by David Wilson a few days ago that he is A259/A260, however no permission has been given to me to do anything with it and I have no access to the file hence its not been added to the public tree. Iain > From: bernardmorgan@hotmail.com > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 12:05:51 +0000 > Subject: [R-M222] O'Shaughnessy result > > I see the O'Shaughnessy Big Y result have been uploaded to the L21 project. Do we know what his terminal SNP is? > > File : /Big_Y_results/M222_36712_O'Shaughnessy_Big_Y_20140522.zip > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I see that for $349 YSEQ will test a panel of 24 SNPs downstream of M222. Is there a tree chart available that shows how these connect? It would be interesting to compare such a chart with Iain Kennedy's tree that I believe is based on Chromo2. The SNPs on YSEQ's panel are: DF104 DF85 DF97 F1265 FGC4077 FGC4078 FGC4111 FGC449 FGC5856 FGC5870 S568 S588 S590 S595 S597 S603 S658 S660 S668 S668 S673 S7050 S7814 Z2968

I see the O'Shaughnessy Big Y result have been uploaded to the L21 project. Do we know what his terminal SNP is? File : /Big_Y_results/M222_36712_O'Shaughnessy_Big_Y_20140522.zip

This includes integration between FGC and BIG Y...Chromo2 stuff there as applicable. According to Alex, however, he's a back log of files so not everyone is there yet www.littlescottishcluster.com/RL21/NGS/Tree.html <http://www.littlescottishcluster.com/RL21/NGS/Tree.html> I'm not certain this is what you are referring to though On 5/23/2014 11:07 AM, Bernard Morgan wrote: > Where would I find R1b-L21_SNP_Tree_Discovery comparison spreadsheet? I couldn't find in https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/R1b-L21-Project/files . > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Iain, if I may suggest a solution that you have already represented that you are opposed to, but to save yourself the frustration as well as that of those who have given the admins permissions -- Join the L21 project @ yahoo groups and you may access the files that have been up-loaded into the filing system. You do not have to receive the email messages, or contribute, or any of the rest of it if you choose not to. On 5/23/2014 10:44 AM, Iain Kennedy wrote: > The same issues apply to all the ones that came in the other day. I'm not authorised to say any more; no one finds this more frustrating than I do. > > Iain > > > > > >> From: bernardmorgan@hotmail.com >> To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com >> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 14:36:09 +0000 >> Subject: [R-M222] Dunbar Result >> >> I see the Dunbar 205549 Big Y result have been uploaded to the L21 project. Do we know what his terminal SNP is? >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I took a second glance at Z16323 and question it now. 24293374G>C Z16323 In Ybrowse it shows up on an Palindrome segment which is not good for stability. Palindrome segments are subject to recLOH events that can wipe out SNPs. A second clue is that f27202 Cunniff is FGC4087+, which appears equivalent to FGC4077 and FGC4078, I think. The Milligan's are not FGC4087+ so that would make Z16323 phylogenetically inconsistent with FGC4078. Regards, Mike W On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Mike W <mwwdna@gmail.com> wrote: > I also just noticed this in the R1b-L21_SNP_Tree_Discovery spreadsheet. > Have we discussed Z16323 yet? > > These three are the only people of the 24 M222+ folks that are derived at > Z16323: > > f27202 Cunniff > f12068 Milligan > f135550 Milligan > > It appears to be downstream of DF109/S660 and A1. BTW, A1 is something to > discuss too. > > Beyond that the two Milligan's are exclusive in being the only people to > have these four variants from Big Y gold regions: > > 22471633CT>C > 24447754C>T FGC4133 > 24481701TTCC>T > 25088392G>A FGC4134 > > You can see that FGC4133 and FGC4134 are point SNPs and must also be found > in an FGC tester. If he's a Milligan too then we may Milligan surname > markers. > > Regards, > Mike W > >

Aidan, do you have any information on which of these SNPs are older or younger? Any thoughts on who should test for which? This is timely as YSEQ still has their sale going. I request that anyone who tests with YSEQ join the YSEQ public project for Group ID=11. It is administered by Mark Jost, our ISOGG coordinator. Joining that group allows us to easily copy YSEQ results in with other data, thereby giving us an integrated view of SNPs from multiple sources. Think of the YSEQ group as a rough Y DNA SNP report screen, just know MKDA origins info. However, if you post your kit# and YSEQ ID I have a system where that is all integrated so those SNPs can show up in the R1b-L21 and R1b-M222 haplotype spreadsheets along with STRs. Mike W On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Aidan Byrne <certavi.et.vici@gmail.com>wrote: > Hi. > > Here are my FGC SNPs that are available to order on YSEQ. > > - Aidan. > > FGC449 > FGC4103 > FGC4104 > FGC4106 > FGC4107 > FGC4108 > FGC4109 > FGC4110 > FGC4111 > FGC4112 > FGC4113 > FGC4114 > FGC4115 > > >