Doug, Check out Alex Williamson's "BigY" tree here: http://www.littlescottishcluster.com/RL21/NGS/Tree.html You can see your kit number under M222 section, this puts your BigY results in context of other M222+ BigY. Regards -Paul (DF41+) On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 7:55 PM, tuulen <tuulen@gmail.com> wrote: > I am in the S660 group, according to Big Y, but where could I go for > further genetic refinement? At FTDNA I have already tested as DF85- > (negative). > > Doug > > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Iain Kennedy <ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > I think I have added all the results I was made aware of yesterday now. > > > > Paul McIlveen A223/4/5 (YSEQ) [also confirmed A259-, A260-] > > Steve Ewing S603 (YSEQ) > > J. McKown S603 (Chromo2) > > Ken Beirne FGC4077 (YSEQ) > > > > All interesting of course and congratulations, I hope if anyone in S660* > > has deferred followup testing this will encourage them to proceed as the > > sub-branching is quite fascinating... > > > > http://www.kennedydna.com/M222.pdf > > > > Iain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Doug, you are already known to be negative (ancestral) for the three new sub-branches of S660 from inspection of your BAM file. You are in a waiting game for someone else to come along and match you. Unless you want to splash out for the more expensive FullGenomes test but that won't find you new matches, more it would potentially add to your list of private SNPs. That would be a decision that needs careful weighing up to ensure you understood what you would and wouldn't get out of it. Iain > Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 14:55:23 -0400 > From: tuulen@gmail.com > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Tree update > > I am in the S660 group, according to Big Y, but where could I go for > further genetic refinement? At FTDNA I have already tested as DF85- > (negative). > > Doug > > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Iain Kennedy <ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > I think I have added all the results I was made aware of yesterday now. > > > > Paul McIlveen A223/4/5 (YSEQ) [also confirmed A259-, A260-] > > Steve Ewing S603 (YSEQ) > > J. McKown S603 (Chromo2) > > Ken Beirne FGC4077 (YSEQ) > > > > All interesting of course and congratulations, I hope if anyone in S660* > > has deferred followup testing this will encourage them to proceed as the > > sub-branching is quite fascinating... > > > > http://www.kennedydna.com/M222.pdf > > > > Iain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, I received an email from Ancestry the other day - I assumed everyone would have received one about the same time. They are no longer supporting Y-dna (or mtDNA) at all. Existing samples will be destroyed and the entire database will be deleted. I transferred to FTDNA some time ago, but of course I will no longer be able to compare my results with those of other Ancestry customers if they don't transfer. Furthermore MyFamily.com is also being discontinued. The O'Molloy genealogy project to which I belong will no longer exist. The facility for comparing results with other project members has not been available for some time. I stopped receiving y-dna match notifications a couple of years ago. I had asked Ancestry a few times what was going on, and all they did was pat me on the head and say "There there everything's going to be fine!" Not very nice. Geoff -----Original Message----- From: Bob Doherty Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 4:57 PM To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com Subject: [R-M222] Transfer Y-DNA Data Before It's Too Late! I received an email from FTDNA on Friday, June 06, 2014 12:25PM with the subject heading: "Transfer Y-DNA Data Before It's Too Late!" The email states the following: Dear Group Administrators, On Thursday, Ancestry.comT announced that they will no longer sell Y-DNA and mtDNA tests. Additionally, the results from past Y-DNA and mtDNA tests will no longer be available after September 5, 2014. There are no guarantee on what the future holds for Ancestry.com'sT autosomal DNA offering so we strongly recommend that you tell people that tested with Ancestry.comT to transfer their Y-DNA and Autosomal DNA to Family Tree DNA where our main focus is genetic genealogy. mtDNA is not transferable because of compatibility issues. Family Tree DNA is committed to supporting these valuable genealogical tests today and in the future. You should encourage anyone who has tested with Ancestry.comT to transfer their record to Family Tree DNA as soon as possible. The Y-DNA and Autosomal DNA transfer options are listed below: I happened to meet a friend today (while walking my dogs) who works at Ancestry, and she confirmed that Ancestry.com is discontinuing their Y-DNA and mtDNA but keeping their AutosmalDNA. That is different from what FTDNA is saying. I told her that I have tested with Ancestry but I had not received an email from ancestry. I guess I need to follow up on this with Ancestry. Has anyone else heard anything on this? Bob Doherty Doherty Surname Group co-administrator ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Iain, I was surprised to discover that Degnen and I, both of the S660 group, have an African Aborigine SNP marker, according to Big Y, albeit quite ancient. And although I tested DF85- (negative), I am wondering if I could be of any other sub-branch or downstream branch of S660. Otherwise I am willing to play the waiting game. Thank goodness for the Internet, but that is how this game gets played. Doug On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:09 PM, Iain Kennedy <ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com> wrote: > Doug, you are already known to be negative (ancestral) for the three new > sub-branches of S660 from inspection of your BAM file. You are in a waiting > game for someone else to come along and match you. Unless you want to > splash out for the more expensive FullGenomes test but that won't find you > new matches, more it would potentially add to your list of private SNPs. > That would be a decision that needs careful weighing up to ensure you > understood what you would and wouldn't get out of it. > > > Iain > > > > > > > Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2014 14:55:23 -0400 > > From: tuulen@gmail.com > > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Tree update > > > > I am in the S660 group, according to Big Y, but where could I go for > > further genetic refinement? At FTDNA I have already tested as DF85- > > (negative). > > > > Doug > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Iain Kennedy <ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > I think I have added all the results I was made aware of yesterday now. > > > > > > Paul McIlveen A223/4/5 (YSEQ) [also confirmed A259-, A260-] > > > Steve Ewing S603 (YSEQ) > > > J. McKown S603 (Chromo2) > > > Ken Beirne FGC4077 (YSEQ) > > > > > > All interesting of course and congratulations, I hope if anyone in > S660* > > > has deferred followup testing this will encourage them to proceed as > the > > > sub-branching is quite fascinating... > > > > > > http://www.kennedydna.com/M222.pdf > > > > > > Iain > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Kelly, I have been at this for more than a few years now, and so let me assure you that family names in Ireland and in Scotland have often changed, sometimes simply because a family or an individual person migrated from one place to another and then adopted the name of the dominant family of their new home region. Yeah, that might make no sense but apparently that was customary in those times. And then there is quite faulty record keeping, of both church and state, not to mention the great range in the spelling of Anglicized Gaelic family names. For instance, my family began as O'Muirgheasain. But, after going through as many spelling changes as a person has fingers, could you know what my name is now? We, nearly all of us, are lucky to be able to trace our family records back for a couple of hundred years or so. Therefore, today we rely on genetics. Best, Doug FTDNA 196477 On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Kelly Wheaton <a4est42@gmail.com> wrote: > I have just returned from a reunion of previously unmet PADEN cousins so a > bit exhausted and catching up. Just wanted to thank everyone for their > suggestions. If my cousin will agree to another kit I will test a few > additional makers as suggested with YSEQ. If not I will go for two at > FTDNA. I am waiting to hear back from him. Hopefully so I can order before > Father's DAY at YSEQ. > > It is my suspicion that as in my WHEATON DNA project There may be a number > of legitimate ( not NPE) lines that adopted the PADEN/PEDEN/PADDON name as > a diminutive of Patrick son of Patrick or some variation. ours from the DNA > and match evidence so far clearly has a connection with Coleraine, > Londonderry and looks like A connection with MAXWELLS in Ayrshire, > Scotland. Not there yet but getting closer. > > I will have more when I get some sleep. (Tornado in Denver delayed > flight....so sleep deprived) > > Regards, > Kelly > > > -- > Kelly Wheaton > a4est42@gmail.com > > <http://tinyurl.com/geneticgenealogyguide> > The Beginner's Guide to Genetic Genealogy > <http://tinyurl.com/geneticgenealogyguide> > Wheaton Surname Resources > <https://sites.google.com/site/wheatonsurname/home> > Rehoboth, MA DNA Project <http://www.familytreedna.com/public/REHOBOTH/> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

37 STR markers is where the action begins, and 67 STR markers is where the citizen-scientists here will begin to take you seriously. And the Big Y SNP markers will put you on the genetic map. Yeah, that is how this genetic game gets played. Doug FTDNA 196477 On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 12:45 PM, McKee <ldm.127187@gmail.com> wrote: > E-mail not displaying correctly? 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I am in the S660 group, according to Big Y, but where could I go for further genetic refinement? At FTDNA I have already tested as DF85- (negative). Doug On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Iain Kennedy <ikennedy_msdn2@hotmail.com> wrote: > I think I have added all the results I was made aware of yesterday now. > > Paul McIlveen A223/4/5 (YSEQ) [also confirmed A259-, A260-] > Steve Ewing S603 (YSEQ) > J. McKown S603 (Chromo2) > Ken Beirne FGC4077 (YSEQ) > > All interesting of course and congratulations, I hope if anyone in S660* > has deferred followup testing this will encourage them to proceed as the > sub-branching is quite fascinating... > > http://www.kennedydna.com/M222.pdf > > Iain > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Aidan, I'm trying to make all my "Private" SNP's that can be sequenced available on YSEQ. I just noticed that I too have FGC449 - so it must be upstream somewhere, maybe around S7073? Cheers, Paul On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Mike W <mwwdna@gmail.com> wrote: > Aidan, do you have any information on which of these SNPs are older or > younger? Any thoughts on who should test for which? > > This is timely as YSEQ still has their sale going. I request that anyone > who tests with YSEQ join the YSEQ public project for Group ID=11. It is > administered by Mark Jost, our ISOGG coordinator. Joining that group allows > us to easily copy YSEQ results in with other data, thereby giving us an > integrated view of SNPs from multiple sources. Think of the YSEQ group as a > rough Y DNA SNP report screen, just know MKDA origins info. However, if > you post your kit# and YSEQ ID I have a system where that is all integrated > so those SNPs can show up in the R1b-L21 and R1b-M222 haplotype > spreadsheets along with STRs. > > Mike W > > > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Aidan Byrne <certavi.et.vici@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > Here are my FGC SNPs that are available to order on YSEQ. > > > > - Aidan. > > > > FGC449 > > FGC4103 > > FGC4104 > > FGC4106 > > FGC4107 > > FGC4108 > > FGC4109 > > FGC4110 > > FGC4111 > > FGC4112 > > FGC4113 > > FGC4114 > > FGC4115 > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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Hi Iain, I'm glad to see McIlveen tested positive for A223/4/5. Depending on how you count differences he is GD=10 to 12 from me at 67 markers. In the interest of encouragement some reasonable candidates for this test appear in my FTDNA match list: GD, Surname, Locale 5 McGirl, Leitrim 6 McGovern, Cavan 6 Corrigan, Down 6 Bingham, Down 7 DeVaney Roscommon 7 Power, Waterford 7 McGovern, Cavan 7 McCord, Aryshire 7 Fournier, France 7 Duffey, Armagh 7 McConnell, Argyll 7 MacKenzie, Ross and Cromarty === Colin Ferguson

I have just returned from a reunion of previously unmet PADEN cousins so a bit exhausted and catching up. Just wanted to thank everyone for their suggestions. If my cousin will agree to another kit I will test a few additional makers as suggested with YSEQ. If not I will go for two at FTDNA. I am waiting to hear back from him. Hopefully so I can order before Father's DAY at YSEQ. It is my suspicion that as in my WHEATON DNA project There may be a number of legitimate ( not NPE) lines that adopted the PADEN/PEDEN/PADDON name as a diminutive of Patrick son of Patrick or some variation. ours from the DNA and match evidence so far clearly has a connection with Coleraine, Londonderry and looks like A connection with MAXWELLS in Ayrshire, Scotland. Not there yet but getting closer. I will have more when I get some sleep. (Tornado in Denver delayed flight....so sleep deprived) Regards, Kelly -- Kelly Wheaton a4est42@gmail.com <http://tinyurl.com/geneticgenealogyguide> The Beginner's Guide to Genetic Genealogy <http://tinyurl.com/geneticgenealogyguide> Wheaton Surname Resources <https://sites.google.com/site/wheatonsurname/home> Rehoboth, MA DNA Project <http://www.familytreedna.com/public/REHOBOTH/>

All this was known back in March. See: http://cruwys.blogspot.ie/2014/03/have-ancestrydna-discontinued-their-y.html On 9 Jun 2014, at 08:55, Margaret and Geoff Melloy wrote: > Yes, I received an email from Ancestry the other day - I assumed > everyone > would have received one about the same time. They are no longer > supporting > Y-dna (or mtDNA) at all. Existing samples will be destroyed and the > entire > database will be deleted. I transferred to FTDNA some time ago, but of > course I will no longer be able to compare my results with those of > other > Ancestry customers if they don't transfer. > > Furthermore MyFamily.com is also being discontinued. The O'Molloy > genealogy > project to which I belong will no longer exist. The facility for > comparing > results with other project members has not been available for some > time. > > I stopped receiving y-dna match notifications a couple of years ago. > I had > asked Ancestry a few times what was going on, and all they did was > pat me on > the head and say "There there everything's going to be fine!" > > Not very nice. > > Geoff > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Doherty > Sent: Monday, June 09, 2014 4:57 PM > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Subject: [R-M222] Transfer Y-DNA Data Before It's Too Late! > > I received an email from FTDNA on Friday, June 06, 2014 12:25PM with > the > subject heading: "Transfer Y-DNA Data Before It's Too Late!" > > > > The email states the following: > > > > Dear Group Administrators, > > > > On Thursday, Ancestry.comT announced that they will no longer sell Y- > DNA and > mtDNA tests. Additionally, the results from past Y-DNA and mtDNA > tests will > no longer be available after September 5, 2014. > > > > There are no guarantee on what the future holds for Ancestry.com'sT > autosomal DNA offering so we strongly recommend that you tell people > that > tested with Ancestry.comT to transfer their Y-DNA and Autosomal DNA to > Family Tree DNA where our main focus is genetic genealogy. mtDNA is > not > transferable because of compatibility issues. > > > > Family Tree DNA is committed to supporting these valuable > genealogical tests > today and in the future. You should encourage anyone who has tested > with > Ancestry.comT to transfer their record to Family Tree DNA as soon as > possible. > > > > The Y-DNA and Autosomal DNA transfer options are listed below: > > > > I happened to meet a friend today (while walking my dogs) who works at > Ancestry, and she confirmed that Ancestry.com is discontinuing their > Y-DNA > and mtDNA but keeping their AutosmalDNA. That is different from > what FTDNA > is saying. I told her that I have tested with Ancestry but I had not > received an email from ancestry. I guess I need to follow up on > this with > Ancestry. Has anyone else heard anything on this? > > > > Bob Doherty > > Doherty Surname Group co-administrator > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

I think I have added all the results I was made aware of yesterday now. Paul McIlveen A223/4/5 (YSEQ) [also confirmed A259-, A260-] Steve Ewing S603 (YSEQ) J. McKown S603 (Chromo2) Ken Beirne FGC4077 (YSEQ) All interesting of course and congratulations, I hope if anyone in S660* has deferred followup testing this will encourage them to proceed as the sub-branching is quite fascinating... http://www.kennedydna.com/M222.pdf Iain

If you have tested Y at Ancestry you should have received an email from them about it, I did. I guess if you have only done the autosomal for example then you won't hear from them. FTDNA are trying it on a bit by the sounds of things, trying to get everyone worried that the autosomal is going to be ditched too. In fact Ancestry are ditching the older two tests so they can *concentrate* on autosomal. Iain > From: doherty.robert@comcast.net > To: dna-r1b1c7@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2014 23:57:55 -0700 > Subject: [R-M222] Transfer Y-DNA Data Before It's Too Late! > > I received an email from FTDNA on Friday, June 06, 2014 12:25PM with the > subject heading: "Transfer Y-DNA Data Before It's Too Late!" > > > > The email states the following: > > > > Dear Group Administrators, > > > > On Thursday, Ancestry.comT announced that they will no longer sell Y-DNA and > mtDNA tests. Additionally, the results from past Y-DNA and mtDNA tests will > no longer be available after September 5, 2014. > > > > There are no guarantee on what the future holds for Ancestry.com'sT > autosomal DNA offering so we strongly recommend that you tell people that > tested with Ancestry.comT to transfer their Y-DNA and Autosomal DNA to > Family Tree DNA where our main focus is genetic genealogy. mtDNA is not > transferable because of compatibility issues. > > > > Family Tree DNA is committed to supporting these valuable genealogical tests > today and in the future. You should encourage anyone who has tested with > Ancestry.comT to transfer their record to Family Tree DNA as soon as > possible. > > > > The Y-DNA and Autosomal DNA transfer options are listed below: > > > > I happened to meet a friend today (while walking my dogs) who works at > Ancestry, and she confirmed that Ancestry.com is discontinuing their Y-DNA > and mtDNA but keeping their AutosmalDNA. That is different from what FTDNA > is saying. I told her that I have tested with Ancestry but I had not > received an email from ancestry. I guess I need to follow up on this with > Ancestry. Has anyone else heard anything on this? > > > > Bob Doherty > > Doherty Surname Group co-administrator > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I received an email from FTDNA on Friday, June 06, 2014 12:25PM with the subject heading: "Transfer Y-DNA Data Before It's Too Late!" The email states the following: Dear Group Administrators, On Thursday, Ancestry.comT announced that they will no longer sell Y-DNA and mtDNA tests. Additionally, the results from past Y-DNA and mtDNA tests will no longer be available after September 5, 2014. There are no guarantee on what the future holds for Ancestry.com'sT autosomal DNA offering so we strongly recommend that you tell people that tested with Ancestry.comT to transfer their Y-DNA and Autosomal DNA to Family Tree DNA where our main focus is genetic genealogy. mtDNA is not transferable because of compatibility issues. Family Tree DNA is committed to supporting these valuable genealogical tests today and in the future. You should encourage anyone who has tested with Ancestry.comT to transfer their record to Family Tree DNA as soon as possible. The Y-DNA and Autosomal DNA transfer options are listed below: I happened to meet a friend today (while walking my dogs) who works at Ancestry, and she confirmed that Ancestry.com is discontinuing their Y-DNA and mtDNA but keeping their AutosmalDNA. That is different from what FTDNA is saying. I told her that I have tested with Ancestry but I had not received an email from ancestry. I guess I need to follow up on this with Ancestry. Has anyone else heard anything on this? Bob Doherty Doherty Surname Group co-administrator

M222 Group has one member who has perfect score at 67 markers tested. So, he is a perfect M222 as it were. Out of 465 matches he has with the members of the SNP M222 Group at 67 markers tested he matches: 28 R-M269 8 R-P312 2 R-PF2028 5 R-DF23 1 R-PF3292 7 R-L21 2 Blank (1 McKee and one McGee) 1 R-F3952 1 R1b1a2a1a1b4b 4 R1b1a2 (Mitchell, McConkey, McCarthy, McConchie) 2 R-P25 ----------------- 61 of 465

Indeed you are! I'm working on the spread sheet and these below are new results that just came it. You are in it...rearranging and adding the new results Thanks, Michael Susan On 6/8/2014 12:42 PM, Michael McNally wrote: > Susan, > Am I confirmed as S603 as well? Mike McNally 198682 > Subtype S603 > > > On Sunday, June 8, 2014 12:34 PM, Susan Hedeen > <chantillycarpets@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > The BIGY Ewing that was stuck at S588 is confirmed through *YSEQ to be > S603* > f215509 Ewing,S (prob S603) BIGY S588 > > 242 FGC2815 ChrY 13979544 13979544 T- > 242 FGC3204 ChrY 13979797 13979797 T- > 242 FGC7928 ChrY 13979841 13979841 A+ > 242 S603 ChrY 13979841 13979841 A+ > 242 Y1524 ChrY 13979995 13979995 T+ > ------------------------------------- > Also McKown is S603 from Chromo 2. > McKown wrote: > Hello Susan, > *S588+, S603+* > From the positive variants; awaiting the down load for the Raw Data; > and I need to look up Mr. McKown's FTDNA # > > Susan Hedeen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com > <mailto:DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

The BIGY Ewing that was stuck at S588 is confirmed through *YSEQ to be S603* f215509 Ewing,S (prob S603) BIGY S588 242 FGC2815 ChrY 13979544 13979544 T- 242 FGC3204 ChrY 13979797 13979797 T- 242 FGC7928 ChrY 13979841 13979841 A+ 242 S603 ChrY 13979841 13979841 A+ 242 Y1524 ChrY 13979995 13979995 T+ ------------------------------------- Also McKown is S603 from Chromo 2. McKown wrote: Hello Susan, *S588+, S603+* From the positive variants; awaiting the down load for the Raw Data; and I need to look up Mr. McKown's FTDNA # Susan Hedeen

Thank you Susan. Don't work too hard. Mike On Sunday, June 8, 2014 12:54 PM, Susan Hedeen <chantillycarpets@earthlink.net> wrote: Indeed you are! I'm working on the spread sheet and these below are new results that just came it. You are in it...rearranging and adding the new results Thanks, Michael  Susan On 6/8/2014 12:42 PM, Michael McNally wrote: > Susan, >    Am I confirmed as S603 as well? Mike McNally 198682 > Subtype S603 > > > On Sunday, June 8, 2014 12:34 PM, Susan Hedeen > <chantillycarpets@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > The BIGY Ewing that was stuck at S588 is confirmed through *YSEQ to be > S603* > f215509    Ewing,S (prob S603)    BIGY    S588 > > 242    FGC2815    ChrY    13979544    13979544    T- > 242    FGC3204    ChrY    13979797    13979797    T- > 242    FGC7928    ChrY    13979841    13979841    A+ > 242    S603            ChrY    13979841    13979841 A+ > 242    Y1524        ChrY    13979995    13979995    T+ > ------------------------------------- > Also McKown is S603 from Chromo 2. > McKown wrote: > Hello Susan, > *S588+, S603+* > From the positive variants; awaiting the down load for the Raw Data; > and I need to look up Mr. McKown's FTDNA # > > Susan Hedeen > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com > <mailto:DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DNA-R1B1C7-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message