Sandy > They are not equivalent. It was my whole genome that led to the discovery of > 11 new SNPs downstream of M222+. Am I correct that below you have S661, S658, S660, S659, S588, S603, S595, S590, S592, S597, S598. > Another Scotsman's whole genome led to the > discovery of 13 new SNPs downstream of M222. > However there is now a un-named Scotsman with more identified SNPs under M222 than you? Does he have two private SNPs beyond S592 or a different line of SNPs? Thanks.

Trying now some is in table form so can't move items up or down but can format onto CPG see what ya think send it to ya Ray McHale Manager - Finance & Executive Centre Point Group Recruitment Tel:+61 2 8213 3154 Mobile: +61 412 153 293 Fax: +61 2 9290 3042 Email: [email protected] Sydney: www.centrepointgroup.com.au Dublin: www.centrepointgroup.com __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ IMPORTANT INFORMATION Disclaimer The information contained in this email may be legally privileged and confidential. It is intended solely for the addressee. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message, you may not copy, disclose or distribute this message to anyone. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of Centre Point Group(Centre Point Australia) shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing client engagement letter. > On 30 Oct 2013, at 11:15 am, Bernard Morgan <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have ordered, received and sent back the chromo2 test. Now just waiting on the results. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Oct 29, 2013, at 7:18 PM, "Linda McKee" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> If you have already received or have on order the Chromo2 please post >> name and kit and expected delivery date. If you are not a member of >> the M222+ project please post your project. >> >> The orders I have listed already are: >> >> Today: >> >> 231979 Willaim Guinn >> >> >> Recent: >>> >>> 30771 Paul J BURNS >>> >>> 201623 Mr. Brian G CALLAHAN Esq >>> >>> 235771 Mr Robert Nathan McBRIDE >>> >>> B3060 Mr Stephan L WHELAN >>> >>> 23269 Mr Paul Westland McILVEEN >>> >>> 251441 Mr Brenden DAVITT >>> >>> 198682 Mr Michael Anthony McNALLY >> >> Earlier orders: >> >> B4058 Robert McFadden >> >> 8999 David Wilson >> >> 16646 Paul Conroy >> >> 118913 Sandy Patterson >> >> I think Bernard, Iain and Paul Duffy also have tested.........can you >> confirm? >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Paul, They are not equivalent. It was my whole genome that led to the discovery of 11 new SNPs downstream of M222+. Another Scotsman's whole genome led to the discovery of 13 new SNPs downstream of M222. This information comes from Jim Wilson, a PhD and a Fellow of the Royal Society. Best, Sandy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Ó Du??aig Sent: 30 October 2013 09:16 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 order ?? Phylogenetically they are "equivalent", this is the term used by ISOGG for two or more separate SNP's that mark the one branch. Basically until a S661+/S658- or a S658+/S661- man is found the two are regarded as functionally equivalent for purposes of the haplogroup tree. As an example, DF41 is equivalent to CTS2501, all DF41+ men tested so far have come back as CTS2501+, likewise all CTS2501+ men we have found (through Geno 2.0 testing) have likewise tested as DF41+. The two are indeed separate SNP's but are regarded "equivalent" when it comes to defining: *R1b1a2a1a2c1i* L21 has a similar position with regards to L459 and Z290. Going by what we know from Chromo2 it would seem that there are at least 24 snp's "equivalent to" M222. >From my original email, I should have put DF85 in Parentheses eg. "S673 (DF85)" -- DF85 been just a different name for the same SNP. Just like how ScotlandsDNA call DF41: S524 -- same SNP just different name. As you note in case of S661/S658 and S660/S659 they are indeed 4 separate snp's, but they only mark two levels in the phylogeny. Of course if enough people do Chromo2 tests we may end up separating each of these from each other. -Paul (DF41+) On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Alexander Paterson < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Just a clarification. > > > S661 > S658 > S660 > S659 > S588 > S7814 > S603 > S595 > S592 > S673/DF85 (you are probably negative for this one) > S668 (you are probably negative for this as it's subclade of DF85) > S568 > S567 > > S661 is not equivalent to S658. > S660 is not equivalent to S659. > > They are four separate mutations downstream of M222. > > There are a total of 27 SNPs downstream of M222. I alone have 11 SNPs > downstream of M222. > A Scotsman has 13 SNPs downstream of M222. > There are three more. > > All 27 were discovered by ScotlandsDNA. > > Best, > > Sandy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Ó Du??aig > Sent: 29 October 2013 16:07 > To: Helen Murphy; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 order ?? > > Helen, > > Chromo2 is a chip based test from ScotlandsDNA/IrelandsDNA/EnglandsDNA. > They've included several SNP's that help sub-divide M222. One of these > SNP's is DF85 which you probably have seen talk about on the list. From > looking at your matches in the Ireland project it's probable that your > husband is DF85-. > > The advantage for you in taking a Chromo2 test is that it would test you > for the following SNP's under M222: > S661/S658 > S660/S659 > S588 > S7814 > S603 > S595 > S592 > S673/DF85 (you are probably negative for this one) > S668 (you are probably negative for this as it's subclade of DF85) > S568 > S567 > > Here's a phylogenetic tree that shows the current known structure of these > SNP's under M222: (maintained by Iain Kennedy) > http://www.kennedydna.com/M222.pdf > > If you come back positive on any of those SNP's it would at least "tie" > your husband down to a particular part of wider M222 "tree". > > Regards > -Paul > (DF41+) > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Helen Murphy <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I administer my husband Dave Murphy kit #201315 at ftDNA - he is R-M222 - > > I have done his markers up to 111 & his autosomal at Family Finder. What > is > > Chromo2 ? and should I order it for him? He is full Irish, his grand > > parents & gr-gr came from Galway, Mayo, Cork, & Waterford. Please > advise... > > > > Helen Murphy - [email protected] > > > > PS: I am #128128 on ftDNA - with Reynolds line in Virginia > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Robert, DF85 is subordinate to M222 (the progenitor of this mutation was M222+), so it follows that all men who are DF85+ are by default M222+. Hope this helps! On 30 October 2013 12:20, Robert Reid <[email protected]> wrote: > Has DF85+ been found in any M222- individuals to the best of your knowledge > or is it inclusive to M222? > > > > If it is downstream of M222+ then only DF85+ individuals can carry iM222+? > > > > Your thoughts? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Has DF85+ been found in any M222- individuals to the best of your knowledge or is it inclusive to M222? If it is downstream of M222+ then only DF85+ individuals can carry iM222+? Your thoughts?

L21 project maintains many files. The link below is MW's L21 draft tree and includes R-M222 and some down stream subdivisions. This up-date posted today to the L21groups by MikeW. Haplogroup Tree Descendency Chart for R1b-L21 <https://dl.dropbox.com/u/17907527/R1b-L21_Descendency_Tree.jpg> Iain Kennedy's M222 chart http://www.kennedydna.com/M222.pdf

Phylogenetically they are "equivalent", this is the term used by ISOGG for two or more separate SNP's that mark the one branch. Basically until a S661+/S658- or a S658+/S661- man is found the two are regarded as functionally equivalent for purposes of the haplogroup tree. As an example, DF41 is equivalent to CTS2501, all DF41+ men tested so far have come back as CTS2501+, likewise all CTS2501+ men we have found (through Geno 2.0 testing) have likewise tested as DF41+. The two are indeed separate SNP's but are regarded "equivalent" when it comes to defining: *R1b1a2a1a2c1i* L21 has a similar position with regards to L459 and Z290. Going by what we know from Chromo2 it would seem that there are at least 24 snp's "equivalent to" M222. >From my original email, I should have put DF85 in Parentheses eg. "S673 (DF85)" -- DF85 been just a different name for the same SNP. Just like how ScotlandsDNA call DF41: S524 -- same SNP just different name. As you note in case of S661/S658 and S660/S659 they are indeed 4 separate snp's, but they only mark two levels in the phylogeny. Of course if enough people do Chromo2 tests we may end up separating each of these from each other. -Paul (DF41+) On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Alexander Paterson < [email protected]> wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Just a clarification. > > > S661 > S658 > S660 > S659 > S588 > S7814 > S603 > S595 > S592 > S673/DF85 (you are probably negative for this one) > S668 (you are probably negative for this as it's subclade of DF85) > S568 > S567 > > S661 is not equivalent to S658. > S660 is not equivalent to S659. > > They are four separate mutations downstream of M222. > > There are a total of 27 SNPs downstream of M222. I alone have 11 SNPs > downstream of M222. > A Scotsman has 13 SNPs downstream of M222. > There are three more. > > All 27 were discovered by ScotlandsDNA. > > Best, > > Sandy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Ó Du??aig > Sent: 29 October 2013 16:07 > To: Helen Murphy; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 order ?? > > Helen, > > Chromo2 is a chip based test from ScotlandsDNA/IrelandsDNA/EnglandsDNA. > They've included several SNP's that help sub-divide M222. One of these > SNP's is DF85 which you probably have seen talk about on the list. From > looking at your matches in the Ireland project it's probable that your > husband is DF85-. > > The advantage for you in taking a Chromo2 test is that it would test you > for the following SNP's under M222: > S661/S658 > S660/S659 > S588 > S7814 > S603 > S595 > S592 > S673/DF85 (you are probably negative for this one) > S668 (you are probably negative for this as it's subclade of DF85) > S568 > S567 > > Here's a phylogenetic tree that shows the current known structure of these > SNP's under M222: (maintained by Iain Kennedy) > http://www.kennedydna.com/M222.pdf > > If you come back positive on any of those SNP's it would at least "tie" > your husband down to a particular part of wider M222 "tree". > > Regards > -Paul > (DF41+) > > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Helen Murphy <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I administer my husband Dave Murphy kit #201315 at ftDNA - he is R-M222 - > > I have done his markers up to 111 & his autosomal at Family Finder. What > is > > Chromo2 ? and should I order it for him? He is full Irish, his grand > > parents & gr-gr came from Galway, Mayo, Cork, & Waterford. Please > advise... > > > > Helen Murphy - [email protected] > > > > PS: I am #128128 on ftDNA - with Reynolds line in Virginia > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

2 Additions from R-M222 to the Chromo2 testing: 16212 Ashley R-M222+df85+df97+ 205699 Reid R-M222+df97-df97- On 10/30/2013 8:18 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Here is the current list as I have it. I now am tracking this is list > in the R1b-L21_Haplotypes spreadsheet. It is sorted in haplogroup > (tested) order. > > > f200481 Buchanan R1b-P312>L21 > fN22147 Chambers R1b-P312>L21 > fB4810 Hammond R1b-P312>L21 > f180639 zzzUnk(Crawford) R1b-P312>L21 > f198135 Brunet R1b-P312>L21>DF13 > f65932 Wigand R1b-P312>L21>DF13 > f289737 Willis R1b-P312>L21>DF13 > f218112 Conroy R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF21 > fN3362 Maher R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF21 > f196041 Williamson R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF21 > f32816 Colson R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF21>S424>S190+ > f188409 Taylor R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF21>S424>S190+ > f19822 Wilson R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF21>S424>S190+ > f20437 Reynolds > R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF21>Z246>DF25>DF5>CTS3655>L627>L626+ > f59080 Stevens R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF41 > f47694 MacMillan R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF41** > f35212 McCrere R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF41>L563+ > f30771 Burns R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF49>DF23>Z2961>M222 > f201623 Callahan R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF49>DF23>Z2961>M222 > fB3060 Early R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF49>DF23>Z2961>M222 > f231979 Guinn R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF49>DF23>Z2961>M222 > f235771 McBride R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF49>DF23>Z2961>M222 > fB4058 McFadden R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF49>DF23>Z2961>M222 > f223269 McIlveen R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF49>DF23>Z2961>M222 > f198682 McNally R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF49>DF23>Z2961>M222 > f118913 Paterson R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF49>DF23>Z2961>M222 > f8999 Wilson R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF49>DF23>Z2961>M222 > f251441 Devitt R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF49>DF23>Z2961>M222>DF85 > f16646 Conroy R1b-P312>L21>DF13>DF49>DF23>Z2961>M222>PF1169+ > fB1047 Bennett R1b-P312>L21>DF13>L1335>L1065 > f285203 Cameron R1b-P312>L21>DF13>L1335>L1065 > f260814 Loooper R1b-P312>L21>DF13>L1335>L1065 > f48641 MacMillan R1b-P312>L21>DF13>L1335>L1065* > f143812 MacRae R1b-P312>L21>DF13>L1335>L1065** > f270944 Preston R1b-P312>L21>DF13>L1335>L1065>L743+ > f63127 Templeton R1b-P312>L21>DF13>L1335>L1065>L743+ > f219571 Gardner R1b-P312>L21>DF13>L513>L706.2* > fN54638 Walsh R1b-P312>L21>DF13>L513>L706.2>L705.2+ > f109174 Harrington R1b-P312>L21>DF13>Z251* > f233265 Le Gall R1b-P312>L21>DF13>Z253>Z2534 > > > >

Hi Paul, Just a clarification. S661 S658 S660 S659 S588 S7814 S603 S595 S592 S673/DF85 (you are probably negative for this one) S668 (you are probably negative for this as it's subclade of DF85) S568 S567 S661 is not equivalent to S658. S660 is not equivalent to S659. They are four separate mutations downstream of M222. There are a total of 27 SNPs downstream of M222. I alone have 11 SNPs downstream of M222. A Scotsman has 13 SNPs downstream of M222. There are three more. All 27 were discovered by ScotlandsDNA. Best, Sandy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Ó Du??aig Sent: 29 October 2013 16:07 To: Helen Murphy; [email protected] Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 order ?? Helen, Chromo2 is a chip based test from ScotlandsDNA/IrelandsDNA/EnglandsDNA. They've included several SNP's that help sub-divide M222. One of these SNP's is DF85 which you probably have seen talk about on the list. From looking at your matches in the Ireland project it's probable that your husband is DF85-. The advantage for you in taking a Chromo2 test is that it would test you for the following SNP's under M222: S661/S658 S660/S659 S588 S7814 S603 S595 S592 S673/DF85 (you are probably negative for this one) S668 (you are probably negative for this as it's subclade of DF85) S568 S567 Here's a phylogenetic tree that shows the current known structure of these SNP's under M222: (maintained by Iain Kennedy) http://www.kennedydna.com/M222.pdf If you come back positive on any of those SNP's it would at least "tie" your husband down to a particular part of wider M222 "tree". Regards -Paul (DF41+) On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Helen Murphy <[email protected]> wrote: > I administer my husband Dave Murphy kit #201315 at ftDNA - he is R-M222 - > I have done his markers up to 111 & his autosomal at Family Finder. What is > Chromo2 ? and should I order it for him? He is full Irish, his grand > parents & gr-gr came from Galway, Mayo, Cork, & Waterford. Please advise... > > Helen Murphy - [email protected] > > PS: I am #128128 on ftDNA - with Reynolds line in Virginia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

194537....Edwin Shazell....DF85+ 202608....Grame Ferguson...DF85- and DF97- N64222....Craig McKie has ordered DF85

I have ordered, received and sent back the chromo2 test. Now just waiting on the results. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 29, 2013, at 7:18 PM, "Linda McKee" <[email protected]> wrote: > > If you have already received or have on order the Chromo2 please post > name and kit and expected delivery date. If you are not a member of > the M222+ project please post your project. > > The orders I have listed already are: > > Today: > > 231979 Willaim Guinn > > > Recent: >> >> 30771 Paul J BURNS >> >> 201623 Mr. Brian G CALLAHAN Esq >> >> 235771 Mr Robert Nathan McBRIDE >> >> B3060 Mr Stephan L WHELAN >> >> 23269 Mr Paul Westland McILVEEN >> >> 251441 Mr Brenden DAVITT >> >> 198682 Mr Michael Anthony McNALLY > > Earlier orders: > > B4058 Robert McFadden > > 8999 David Wilson > > 16646 Paul Conroy > > 118913 Sandy Patterson > > I think Bernard, Iain and Paul Duffy also have tested.........can you > confirm? > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Bernard..............I have been missing your posts. From: Bernard Morgan <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 Roll Call > I have ordered, received and sent back the chromo2 test. Now just waiting on the results.

> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 08:33:24 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [R-M222] DF85 and DF97 results posted > > This morning: > > > 31280.....Christopher Ferguson..DF85- > I really hope this guy does Chromo2 as he is from Logierait which is the adjacent parish to mine, is he on the list or does anyone know him? Iain

Thank you all for the update. Bernard, what's your kit #? On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Bernard Morgan <[email protected]>wrote: > I have ordered, received and sent back the chromo2 test. Now just waiting > on the results. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 29, 2013, at 7:18 PM, "Linda McKee" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > If you have already received or have on order the Chromo2 please post > > name and kit and expected delivery date. If you are not a member of > > the M222+ project please post your project. > > > > The orders I have listed already are: > > > > Today: > > > > 231979 Willaim Guinn > > > > > > Recent: > >> > >> 30771 Paul J BURNS > >> > >> 201623 Mr. Brian G CALLAHAN Esq > >> > >> 235771 Mr Robert Nathan McBRIDE > >> > >> B3060 Mr Stephan L WHELAN > >> > >> 23269 Mr Paul Westland McILVEEN > >> > >> 251441 Mr Brenden DAVITT > >> > >> 198682 Mr Michael Anthony McNALLY > > > > Earlier orders: > > > > B4058 Robert McFadden > > > > 8999 David Wilson > > > > 16646 Paul Conroy > > > > 118913 Sandy Patterson > > > > I think Bernard, Iain and Paul Duffy also have tested.........can you > > confirm? > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

N54323.....John Lee Quinn....DF85 N115028....John Linville Coleman...DF85 115365....Robert Charles Gwinn.....DF97 Just checked and no new test results posted this afternoon or evening.

If you have already received or have on order the Chromo2 please post name and kit and expected delivery date. If you are not a member of the M222+ project please post your project. The orders I have listed already are: Today: 231979 Willaim Guinn Recent: > > 30771 Paul J BURNS > > 201623 Mr. Brian G CALLAHAN Esq > > 235771 Mr Robert Nathan McBRIDE > > B3060 Mr Stephan L WHELAN > > 23269 Mr Paul Westland McILVEEN > > 251441 Mr Brenden DAVITT > > 198682 Mr Michael Anthony McNALLY > Earlier orders: B4058 Robert McFadden 8999 David Wilson 16646 Paul Conroy 118913 Sandy Patterson I think Bernard, Iain and Paul Duffy also have tested.........can you confirm?

Helen, Chromo2 is a chip based test from ScotlandsDNA/IrelandsDNA/EnglandsDNA. They've included several SNP's that help sub-divide M222. One of these SNP's is DF85 which you probably have seen talk about on the list. From looking at your matches in the Ireland project it's probable that your husband is DF85-. The advantage for you in taking a Chromo2 test is that it would test you for the following SNP's under M222: S661/S658 S660/S659 S588 S7814 S603 S595 S592 S673/DF85 (you are probably negative for this one) S668 (you are probably negative for this as it's subclade of DF85) S568 S567 Here's a phylogenetic tree that shows the current known structure of these SNP's under M222: (maintained by Iain Kennedy) http://www.kennedydna.com/M222.pdf If you come back positive on any of those SNP's it would at least "tie" your husband down to a particular part of wider M222 "tree". Regards -Paul (DF41+) On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Helen Murphy <[email protected]> wrote: > I administer my husband Dave Murphy kit #201315 at ftDNA - he is R-M222 - > I have done his markers up to 111 & his autosomal at Family Finder. What is > Chromo2 ? and should I order it for him? He is full Irish, his grand > parents & gr-gr came from Galway, Mayo, Cork, & Waterford. Please advise... > > Helen Murphy - [email protected] > > PS: I am #128128 on ftDNA - with Reynolds line in Virginia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

For what it is worth, kit 231979 has ordered the full Chromo test. I will, of course, share all results. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID

Dear Helen, Your haplotype does sit with a rather large group of DYS 391=10; it has some other interesting mutations, some such as the recloh in the 464, 17 @ DYS 576, 27 @ DYS 449 may be coincidental, but maybe not; and coupled with the geographical information you cite below adds another layer. Chromo2 raw data for 129 pounds Sterling may be very enlightening for both you and our project. Susan On 10/29/2013 11:03 AM, Helen Murphy wrote: > I administer my husband Dave Murphy kit #201315 at ftDNA - he is R-M222 - I have done his markers up to 111 & his autosomal at Family Finder. What is Chromo2 ? and should I order it for him? He is full Irish, his grand parents & gr-gr came from Galway, Mayo, Cork, & Waterford. Please advise... > > Helen Murphy - [email protected] > > PS: I am #128128 on ftDNA - with Reynolds line in Virginia > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

*N32460 - Coyne* -- DF85- -Paul (DF41+) On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Linda McKee <[email protected]> wrote: > > Message: 5 > > Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:09:29 -0400 > > From: tuulen<[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Update on DF85 and DF97 orders > > To:[email protected] > > Message-ID: > > <CABbuToxgJzt8v+mH6NVNtrU6gdiHuF1PsjT4Cp=_ > [email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Update: > > > > My DF85 test is now "batched" at FTDNA, #196477. > > Yes, Doug, sorry to have missed adding your order to this List. > > Along with B4058, N32460 and 12068. > > I had moved the orders into the excel but neglected to let the List know > at that time. > > Linda > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >