Mr. McGee 200080 by the haplotype appears to be df97+; but we've had surprises. Mr. McGee may want to order df97 to see.. 4:dark30...I couldn't help myself...I had to look at some stuff. The df85+ folks now have a modal and it is barely 1 off the M222 modal--at cdya=37. The TMRCA has significantly gone up and is at 1875+/- 280 ybd mutation count a standard step count. I didn't complete the infinite allele count yet, but it will not be that much less. There well may be some df97+ in this group, so those who are df85+ and have not ordered df97, please do so. The df85+df97+ group is staying stable at 1350+/-220 years. With better representation of df97, what we should see with the df85+ only group is a bit younger age, and it may cause the df85+df97+ group to age a little bit possibly as the greater bulk of that group is still the Ashley/Duncan/McConechy group; hence having the group balanced out will help tremendously. None the less, df85 is going to show an age not much younger than M222. Getting the Chromo2 results for those who are df85 neg. I hope will add some clarity here as there are SNPs above df85 and looks like some brother snps and certainly some below. I'm done for the wee hours--I need to go to work in about 4 hours; I'll look at this again tomorrow night if I don't fall asleep first. Susan

> > I have traced Magee (S668+) as being identified as a contraction of 'O Maolghaoithe' who were vassals of O'Domhnaill: > I found John's writing on the subject: ".... We do not know the origin of either the O'Mulgeehys or the O'Nolans mentioned in the inquisition. I am also the one who pointed out MacLysaght's statement that the O'Mulgeeheys adopted the name Wynn and occasionally Windham as their own surname, based on the root "gaoth" or wind in Irish, which you freely copied. The exact spelling in the inquisition is "O'Mulgeegh ." This is undoubtedly the same family MacLysaght refers to as O'Mulgeehy (O Maolghaoite). This is also the same family called O Maolghaoithe (O'Mulgee, Magee) described as of "Tuath I Mhaolghaoithe" in the Ceart Ui Neill,' one of the major chieftains of Donegal under the O Donnells. They also appear in the Topographical Poems as "Muintir Maoil ghaoithe (O Mulgeeha)." As one of the major chieftains of Tirconnell under the O Donnells, their DNA is almost certainly R1b1c7, should you be lucky enough to locate a sample, as are all of the other major Donegal clans. They are probably Cenel Conaill in origin, although we have no Irish pedigrees tracing their descent. The O'Nolans, on the other hand, are a complete mystery and ascribing an origin for them is mere guesswork. O'Donovan had this to say about the O'Mulgeegys in his notes to the Topo Poems: "220. O Maoilgaoithe, now anglicised Mulgeehy and Wynne. this family was originally seated in the parish of Clondavaddock, in the territory of Fanaid, whence they were driven by the MacSweenys. Some families of this name are still extant. The late Dr. Thomas Wynne, of Croydon, near London, to whom there is a monument in the church of St. Margaret, was of this race, as the editor was informed by that gentleman's brother." There is an annal entry placing the O'Mulgeehys in Donegal long before the 14th century. 1284 FM Dowell, son of Manus O'Boyle, Chief of Cloch Chinnfaeladh, was slain by the people of O'Mulgeeha. 1284 AC Dubgall mac Magnusa h. Baigill taisech Cloichi Cinnfaelad 18] do marbad la muintir h. Mailgaithi" Well it turns out that it is likely that we do have DNA Additionally from Alan's webpage: AI 1000 - A battle between the Cenél Lugdach themselves, in which Ua Domnaill, king of Cenél Lugdach, Maelgoan Ua Loingsig and his son and many others fell, and Ua Maíl Gaíthe was slain on the other side. Which would imply that the Ua Maíl Gaíthe were Cenel Lugdach or closely related. While other family given, the Ó LOINGSIGH is typically anglicized O Lynchy, O Lynche, O Lensie, Linchey, Linchy, Lynchy, Lynch, Lindsy, (Lindsay); per Wolfe. Fr Wolfe didn't mention this Cenel Conaill family, instead he gave: (1) Ó Loingsigh of Dalradia, (2) Ó Loingsigh of Owney, Uaithne-thire in Tipperary, (3) Ó Loingsigh of Breifney, numerous in Co. Cavan. (4) Ó Loingsigh of Thomond. a Dalcassian family (5) Ó Loingsigh of Cork, a branch of the Corca Laoighe, (6) Ó Loingsigh of Sligo, a branch of the Ui Fiachrach. (7) Ó Loingsigh of Meath. Being that Cenel Conaill power under the O'Donnell's extended into north Connacht. Could Wolfe's Ó Loingsigh of Sligo/Ui Fiachrach be the original Ó Loingsigh associate with Cenél Lugdach (the leading branch of Cenel Conaill)? There are also MacDonnchadh in the area. 'Mac Donnchaidh a branch of the MacDermotts of Moylurg, who were chiefs of Tirerrill and Corran, in Co. Sligo, and resided at Ballymote. The Book of Ballymote was compiled under their patronage.' I wonder if they were related to the people referred to as Ó Donnchadha of Tireragh, identified as a branch of the Ui Fiachrach of the Moy. And what about the Ó Duinnchinn of Sligo? Duinnchinn would seem to be a diminutive from the same name that the plurals Donnchadha and Donnchaidh derive from. In Ulster Mac Donnchaidh is reportedly common in Derry and Tyrone and anglicized as MacDonaghy and Donaghy.

The Doherty's are supposedly Cinéal Chonaill, with an origin in Donegal, having expanded into the peninsula of Inishowen (Inis Eoghain -- island of Eoghan) in the 14th century. This was possible due to the fact that the Mac Lochlainn had been destroyed as a force within Tír Eoghain (the country of Eoghan) by the resurgence of the Ó Néill family over a century beforehand. Tír Eoghain been the land of the "Cinéal nEoghain". -Paul (DF41+) On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:34 PM, tuulen <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Alan, > > But where did the Doherty clann originate? That could have been in western > Ireland, including Mayo. > > Doug > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:46 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Indeed, there were certainly others before Cromwell and as you right > point > > out, the O'Dochartaighs also had earlier ties with Mayo. It will be > > interesting to learn what has to be said on the 17th, especially, as it > > now looks > > like some of the SNPs used in the study may not be reliable indicators > to > > M222+. > > > > I see the Manley result has come through DF85-, that is worthy of note. > As > > I said before, another branch was already known to exist and this branch > is > > also important. If there is a DF85+ there should be a DF85- in the > > O'Dochartaigh Clan. Some of this will soon become more apparent once > more > > of the > > DF85+ results come through in Scotland and we finally work out that > matrix > > posted by Iain Kennedy. > > > > Also, it will be important to compare your Chromo2 with mine and several > > others, given all the research so far, including that carried out by the > > late > > John McLaughlin, strongly indicates, our two separate branches represent > > the oldest with a common ancestry pre-dating Niall of the Nine Hostages. > > > > Alan > > > > > > In a message dated 12/11/2013 00:42:58 GMT Standard Time, > > [email protected] writes: > > > > To "Hell or Connaught" was made famous by Cromwell. But even before > > Oliver's time there were migrations from Ulster to Mayo. One > interesting > > one for > > the O'Dochartaigh Clann is the migration of Maonghaile O'Dochartaigh's > > descendants ( Munnelley, Monnellly, Manley) from Donegal to > > Ballymunnelley, > > Ballycastle and Cloontikilla, Mayo prior to 1585. This precedes Cahir > > O'Dochartaigh's rebellion and the Plantation of Ulster. It appears that, > > like > > the McDevitts, the Munnelly/Monnelley/Manley sept may prove to be > another > > branch of the O'Dochartaigh. I have started discussions with Paul > Manley > > investigate this connection and why they migrated to Mayo when they did. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject > > and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Well if DF85 is associated with "Northern Uí Néill" (Cinéal Chonaill) ye'd expect a strapping "Uí Fhiachrach Aidhne" like yourself to test DF85- ;-) What will be interesting is when the SNP's between M222 and DF85 become available for testing in particular S661 and S660. -Paul (DF41+) On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 9:43 PM, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > Too bad, I guess I am just a "generic" m222+ ;) > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Paul Ó Duḃṫaiġ <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > *37094 -- *Harrison -- DF85+, DF97+ > > > > *227877 -- *Byrnes -- DF85- > > *218512* *-- *Loughney -- DF85- > > *N10119 --* Mitchell -- DF85- > > *74163 --* Manley -- DF85- > > *82395* *-- *Donahue -- DF85- > > *167608 -- *Burke -- DF85- > > *82030 *-- Branum -- DF85-, DF97- > > > > > > -Paul > > (DF41+) > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Linda McKee <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > 116366....Heaney.....DF85- > > > > > > 205297....McConnaughhay....DF85+ DF97+ > > > > > > 229236....McMahon.......DF85- > > > > > > 27202.....DF85- and DF97- > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

*37094 -- *Harrison -- DF85+, DF97+ *227877 -- *Byrnes -- DF85- *218512* *-- *Loughney -- DF85- *N10119 --* Mitchell -- DF85- *74163 --* Manley -- DF85- *82395* *-- *Donahue -- DF85- *167608 -- *Burke -- DF85- *82030 *-- Branum -- DF85-, DF97- -Paul (DF41+) On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Linda McKee <[email protected]> wrote: > 116366....Heaney.....DF85- > > 205297....McConnaughhay....DF85+ DF97+ > > 229236....McMahon.......DF85- > > 27202.....DF85- and DF97- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thus far, I think df85 is hanging in a bit better than Andy Grierson predicted--his prediction was 25%. Kudos to him!!!! And it is getting very interesting, indeed. I can't wait hardly until the rest of Chromo2 comes rolling in along with the rest of the single SNP options. The testing is the easy part...making sense of the rest is going to be a full project effort, folks...Susan On 11/12/2013 7:22 PM, Linda McKee wrote: > Drum roll............ > > 37094......John Harrison.......DF85+ and DF97+ > > 200080.... Ken McGee......DF85+ > > N10119.....Eric Mitchell.......DF85- > > 218512.....John Loughney...DF85- > > 227877.....Timothy Byrnes...DF85- > > 74163......Thomas Manley....DF85- > > 82395......Bernard Donahue...DF85- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am Doug Morrison, M222+, DF85 results pending and DF97 unknown. And it is a good thing that FTDNA could be paying attention to our SNP party. Hey, we need all of the help that we can get! On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Larry Slavens <[email protected]>wrote: > I administer the Slaven/etc. project at FTDNA, and just went out to my > administrator page. There was nothing out of the ordinary on the member > information page or my own page as of the last time I signed in, which was > in the last three or four days. Now, however, instead of being listed as > "Larry Slavens", I'm listed as "Larry Slavens M222+ DF85+ DF97 pending". It > would make one think that perhaps FTDNA is paying special attention to our > little SNP party. (No one else is listed in a similar manner; no one else > has tested for DF85 or DF97. The other member who has tested out to M222+ > isn't noted.) > > Larry > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The better for us:-D:-) Hopefully we can work some other good single SNP options out of them, too. Let's hope. Susan On 11/12/2013 8:25 PM, Larry Slavens wrote: > I administer the Slaven/etc. project at FTDNA, and just went out to my administrator page. There was nothing out of the ordinary on the member information page or my own page as of the last time I signed in, which was in the last three or four days. Now, however, instead of being listed as "Larry Slavens", I'm listed as "Larry Slavens M222+ DF85+ DF97 pending". It would make one think that perhaps FTDNA is paying special attention to our little SNP party. (No one else is listed in a similar manner; no one else has tested for DF85 or DF97. The other member who has tested out to M222+ isn't noted.) > > Larry > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I see that MacAdam kit *88644 *came back as DF85+. Congrats on the result. Regards -Paul (DF41+) On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Allene Goforth <[email protected]> wrote: > I have just ordered DF85 for MacAdam Kit 88644. > > Allene > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

If I'm not mistaken, there is a Daugherty that is neg. for df85. The Dorherty/O'Dohery do have several branches. There has been mention that the group did split more than once as well. I don't like speculating too much as the speculations can be misleading...so just take this as a question: Does anyone remember when Bill Howard and John McLaughlin noticed a bi-modality in R-M222? Could it be indicative of pre and post df85?. Trinity mentioned something to the same effect with IMH. A couple of weeks ago I noticed a possibility in the df85 df97 group at the time with the admonition that there well could be a skew because of the Ashley/Duncan/McC ++ groups...and that probably is the case. I need to get all the results from today grouped in the spread sheet I started a few weeks ago and take a good look. Those df85 positives might want to order df97 to see if it is positive or negative for your guys. Susan On 11/12/2013 6:43 PM, Paul Ó Duḃṫaiġ wrote: > The Doherty's are supposedly Cinéal Chonaill, with an origin in Donegal, > having expanded into the peninsula of Inishowen (Inis Eoghain -- island of > Eoghan) in the 14th century. This was possible due to the fact that the Mac > Lochlainn had been destroyed as a force within Tír Eoghain (the country of > Eoghan) by the resurgence of the Ó Néill family over a century beforehand. > Tír Eoghain been the land of the "Cinéal nEoghain". > > -Paul > (DF41+) > > >

I administer the Slaven/etc. project at FTDNA, and just went out to my administrator page. There was nothing out of the ordinary on the member information page or my own page as of the last time I signed in, which was in the last three or four days. Now, however, instead of being listed as "Larry Slavens", I'm listed as "Larry Slavens M222+ DF85+ DF97 pending". It would make one think that perhaps FTDNA is paying special attention to our little SNP party. (No one else is listed in a similar manner; no one else has tested for DF85 or DF97. The other member who has tested out to M222+ isn't noted.) Larry

But my point is the question of just where the Doherty clann could have originated. As a Morrison I am listed on the Doherty project, at 37 markers my having a GD of only 1 outside of the Doherty mainstream while sharing identical haplogroup. And all of my distant genetic relatives are from Connacht, northern Munster and Ulster, including some in Co. Mayo. And that is where the Niall clann is said to have originated. Doug On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Paul Ó Duḃṫaiġ <[email protected]> wrote: > The Doherty's are supposedly Cinéal Chonaill, with an origin in Donegal, > having expanded into the peninsula of Inishowen (Inis Eoghain -- island of > Eoghan) in the 14th century. This was possible due to the fact that the Mac > Lochlainn had been destroyed as a force within Tír Eoghain (the country of > Eoghan) by the resurgence of the Ó Néill family over a century beforehand. > Tír Eoghain been the land of the "Cinéal nEoghain". > > -Paul > (DF41+) > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 11:34 PM, tuulen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Alan, > > > > But where did the Doherty clann originate? That could have been in > western > > Ireland, including Mayo. > > > > Doug > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:46 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Indeed, there were certainly others before Cromwell and as you right > > point > > > out, the O'Dochartaighs also had earlier ties with Mayo. It will be > > > interesting to learn what has to be said on the 17th, especially, as > it > > > now looks > > > like some of the SNPs used in the study may not be reliable indicators > > to > > > M222+. > > > > > > I see the Manley result has come through DF85-, that is worthy of note. > > As > > > I said before, another branch was already known to exist and this > branch > > is > > > also important. If there is a DF85+ there should be a DF85- in the > > > O'Dochartaigh Clan. Some of this will soon become more apparent once > > more > > > of the > > > DF85+ results come through in Scotland and we finally work out that > > matrix > > > posted by Iain Kennedy. > > > > > > Also, it will be important to compare your Chromo2 with mine and > several > > > others, given all the research so far, including that carried out by > the > > > late > > > John McLaughlin, strongly indicates, our two separate branches > represent > > > the oldest with a common ancestry pre-dating Niall of the Nine > Hostages. > > > > > > Alan > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 12/11/2013 00:42:58 GMT Standard Time, > > > [email protected] writes: > > > > > > To "Hell or Connaught" was made famous by Cromwell. But even before > > > Oliver's time there were migrations from Ulster to Mayo. One > > interesting > > > one for > > > the O'Dochartaigh Clann is the migration of Maonghaile O'Dochartaigh's > > > descendants ( Munnelley, Monnellly, Manley) from Donegal to > > > Ballymunnelley, > > > Ballycastle and Cloontikilla, Mayo prior to 1585. This precedes Cahir > > > O'Dochartaigh's rebellion and the Plantation of Ulster. It appears > that, > > > like > > > the McDevitts, the Munnelly/Monnelley/Manley sept may prove to be > > another > > > branch of the O'Dochartaigh. I have started discussions with Paul > > Manley > > > investigate this connection and why they migrated to Mayo when they > did. > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject > > > and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

>From the Connaught Telegraph: The team from National Geographic are returning to reveal the findings of the ‘Gathering the Mayo Genes’ project which took place last June, the first such event in Northern Europe, where 100 Mayo Volunteers had their DNA sampled in a bid to answer fundamental questions about our origins and how we came to populate the earth. Taking place on Sunday 17th November at GMIT Castlebar, National Geographic Explorer-in-Residence Dr Spencer Wells and his Washington based team will exclusively unlock the secret to Mayo’s DNA at this fun, family event celebrating Mayo’s ancestry which will be an ideal occasion to chat with the National Geographic team. The event which is taking place as part of Science week in Mayo will form part of an exciting line up of events planned for Science week open day on November 17th. The Genographic Project is a multi-year global research initiative using DNA to map the history of human migration. Dr. Spencer Wells, National Geographic Explorer-in-Residence and a population geneticist, said his team are looking forward to unveiling Mayo’s genetic history. “This provides a great citizen science opportunity — and the more people who participate, the more our scientific knowledge will grow. We are excited to have the opportunity to return to Mayo to share the results of the Geno 2.0 Study.” This novel project is another initiative from the Enterprise and Investment Unit at Mayo County Council and a flagship event for 2013, the year of the Gathering. Head of the Enterprise and Investment Unit Joanne Grehan welcomed the National Geographic team back to Mayo, saying “We are delighted that our friends from National Geographic are returning to reveal the results of the Mayo Genographic Study. This has been a superb opportunity for the people of Mayo to play their part in uncovering the mysteries of our ancestors. We hope the findings from this research will assist in mapping the genetic journey of both our County and Humankind.” Participants of the study, their families and Mayo people everywhere are invited to GMIT Castlebar on Sunday November 17th at 3.00pm to hear the origins of Mayo Settlers revealed. Those interested in becoming part of the Genographic study will be able to find out how to do so on the day. The details of this and all other events in the County are available on www.mayo.ie . This website reaches out to and links with Mayo Diaspora worldwide and will continue to be a platform linking Mayo Communities both here and around the world.

Linda, do you happen to realize the significance of this result? Alan In a message dated 12/11/2013 12:27:49 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: N64222

Interesting comment, noted! On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 6:09 PM, Robert Reid <[email protected]>wrote: > Geno2 still has me DF23 also. after repeated complaints and I just gave > up. > Don't think the NGDNA division has it together. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

MacAdam Kit 88644 is DF85+. Allene

Hi Alan, But where did the Doherty clann originate? That could have been in western Ireland, including Mayo. Doug On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 5:46 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Indeed, there were certainly others before Cromwell and as you right point > out, the O'Dochartaighs also had earlier ties with Mayo. It will be > interesting to learn what has to be said on the 17th, especially, as it > now looks > like some of the SNPs used in the study may not be reliable indicators to > M222+. > > I see the Manley result has come through DF85-, that is worthy of note. As > I said before, another branch was already known to exist and this branch is > also important. If there is a DF85+ there should be a DF85- in the > O'Dochartaigh Clan. Some of this will soon become more apparent once more > of the > DF85+ results come through in Scotland and we finally work out that matrix > posted by Iain Kennedy. > > Also, it will be important to compare your Chromo2 with mine and several > others, given all the research so far, including that carried out by the > late > John McLaughlin, strongly indicates, our two separate branches represent > the oldest with a common ancestry pre-dating Niall of the Nine Hostages. > > Alan > > > In a message dated 12/11/2013 00:42:58 GMT Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > > To "Hell or Connaught" was made famous by Cromwell. But even before > Oliver's time there were migrations from Ulster to Mayo. One interesting > one for > the O'Dochartaigh Clann is the migration of Maonghaile O'Dochartaigh's > descendants ( Munnelley, Monnellly, Manley) from Donegal to > Ballymunnelley, > Ballycastle and Cloontikilla, Mayo prior to 1585. This precedes Cahir > O'Dochartaigh's rebellion and the Plantation of Ulster. It appears that, > like > the McDevitts, the Munnelly/Monnelley/Manley sept may prove to be another > branch of the O'Dochartaigh. I have started discussions with Paul Manley > investigate this connection and why they migrated to Mayo when they did. > > Sent from my iPad > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Iain, what is your current thoughts now since your working the matrix? Alan In a message dated 11/11/2013 09:43:05 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 00:00:11 +0000 > Subject: Re: [R-M222] M222 Could Originate in… > > > > > The quoted remark "There will be 21 new SNPs under M222 and all of them are tested on the NatGeo Geno 2.0 test." doesn't make any sense to me at all. We would have seen them by now!? Who is he saying found these SNPs and where? > > > > A copy of Dr. Michael's Hammer's map of the new SNPs downstream from M222 has been published at: > https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151949352643444&set=gm.621729794551000&type=1&theater > > > I read the SNPs as: > > PF3297 > PF3988 > F3952 > F3024 > CTS8007 > M226 > F499 > L196 > Z70 > PF2026 > CTS8580 plus PF1909 under > CTS3771 > CTS10488 > F1400 > CTS9501 > PF910 > PF7301 > F3637 > CTS6 > F1636 > CTS11548 > Well spotted Bernard. I checked my raw Geno file and these are all in it except CTS8007. The image isn't quite good enough to be sure that's what it says though (there is a CTS8002 listed for example).. Given the large number of M222 people who took the Geno test though, it seems unlikely these are significant since no-one we know of has had a 'hit' so far. Iain ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Drum roll............ 37094......John Harrison.......DF85+ and DF97+ 200080.... Ken McGee......DF85+ N10119.....Eric Mitchell.......DF85- 218512.....John Loughney...DF85- 227877.....Timothy Byrnes...DF85- 74163......Thomas Manley....DF85- 82395......Bernard Donahue...DF85-

Geno2 still has me DF23 also. after repeated complaints and I just gave up. Don't think the NGDNA division has it together.