> James Dougherty > > Kit Number: 18212 > > Test: M222, DF85, DF97

11-21-2013 Big Y order: N104491 William McCollum and, One DF85 test result posted this morning: My son ;-) B4398 Leon Jr McKee DF85+

>pretty sure one of the M222 group admins said they were doing it. I was wondering why these labels appeared in only M222 names. I see now that my name has been edited.

YeP, saw it earlier; it is correct that, if indeed there is no alternative to a S series ID'd SNP, that the S series SNP designations should be used. The dilemma I see at the moment for Wilson is that it certainly appears that his lab has also relabeled SNPs found by other labs or individuals with his S series designates. Undoubtedly he may have SNPs with no known equivalents, but how would we really know if the details from his and the other labs are also not made public. Additionally, those SNPs he has provided details to ISOGG are listed on the tree with his S series prefixes along with equivalents ID'd w/prefixes from other labs if they exist. When details of discovery are not formerly made along with a date when they were ID'd and labeled in what ever lab, when another lab ID's the same SNP, if there is no reference for them to see whether or not it has been so ID'd by another individual/lab, it is understandable that in house ID labels will be put on them. It is very difficult for any of us to know what is genuinely coincidental and what is disingenuous. I prefer to believe that most of the multiple labels are genuinely coincidental just because I hate thinking of the alternative, but this is why there needs to be some mechanism in place for both labeling as well as protecting the discoverers. For our purposes, I think none of us really care who discovers them. We want to know what is what so as not to duplicate expenditures in testing and KNOW what the phylogenetic positions are. Susan Hedeen On 11/21/2013 9:12 AM, Linda McKee wrote: > See Ann Turner's response on Genealogy-DNA latest digest for her > thoughts on ............> I look forward to the >

Its nice that FTDNA has started doing this. My name for example now appears as 12701 Ferguson M222+ DF85- DF97- in the M222 project tables. When I view matches using "myFTNDA" page I have 63 yDNA67 matches, of these nobody else tested DF85 and 4 tested yDNA111. I am off the M222 67 marker modal at 7 markers. I have zero yDNA111 matches. A more interesting case is that of kit 202608 which is in both the Fergus(s)on and M222 project. The label is Ferguson M222+, DF85-, DF97-, L555- and this kit has 582 matches at the 67 marker level. It is off the M222 67 marker modal at 4 markers. The matches to persons who tested DF85 are: GD, Name + Label 4 Costigan DF85- DF97- 4 Wilson DF85- DF97- 5 Coyne M222+ DF85- 7 DePew Geno2 DF85- 7 Milligan DF85- DF97- 7 Slavens M222+ DF85+ DF97 pending 7 Harrison M222+ DF85+ DF97+ 7 Leonard M222+ DF85- Jr. Note that 2 of them are DF85+ DF97+ Of those 582 matches at 67 markers, 116 have tested yDNA111 and of those 5 appear in the myFTDNA match list for kit 202608 at 111 markers. Finally, of those 5 only 1 tested DF85 and he is Costigan DF85- DF97-

I actually saw this list myself yesterday...upon examination, the several pages of SNPs are the CTS SNPs with their few equivalents by other names mostly PF SNPs, a few others with prefixes such as L, YSC and Z. I found 3 S SNP references on it...S6085 being CTS11220/PF4100; S66 being CTS1642; and S587 being CTS12363. I look forward to the promised S series details. Susan Hedeen On 11/21/2013 8:09 AM, Linda McKee wrote: >> If you haven't subscribed to CeCe's blog yet, this is what you missed this moring:

Got my result in and I am DF85-. Chromo2 still pending. It seems to be a common belief that the Donegal McFaddens are at least in part descended from Scottish Gallowglass mercenaries who arrived in the 15th-16th century. I'm still trying to find original sources for this, but have no reason to doubt it. The McFaddens in Donegal are clustered in Sweeney territory, whose Gallowglass background is well-documented. It will be interesting to see if I end up grouped in one of the Scottish branches of M222. I'd love to find some Scottish McFadyens willing to test so we can see if the Donegal and Argyll groups are related. The McFadyens are thought to be one of the oldest SCottish clans with a chief having allied with Somerled in his time, but the exact origins are unknown other than the thought that they originally came from Ireland. There are definitely multiple McFadden families (some non-M222 and possibly some unrelated groups within M222) and not nearly enough testees, so this is definitely a work in progress. http://www.familytreedna.com/public/mcfadden/default.aspx?section=ycolorized

.........we also had a result yesterday for: 220791 Bill C McDonald DF85+

See Ann Turner's response on Genealogy-DNA latest digest for her thoughts on ............> I look forward to the >> promised S series details. > From: Susan Hedeen <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] CeCe Moore has news from Jim Wilson in her blog thismorning > Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 08:43:53 -0500 > References: <[email protected]> > In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> > > > I actually saw this list myself yesterday...upon examination, the > several pages of SNPs are the CTS SNPs with their few equivalents by > other names mostly PF SNPs, a few others with prefixes such as L, YSC > and Z. I found 3 S SNP references on it...S6085 being CTS11220/PF4100; > S66 being CTS1642; and S587 being CTS12363. I look forward to the > promised S series details. Susan Hedeen

If you haven't subscribed to CeCe Moore's blog yet then you missed this one this morning: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Fwd: Your Genetic Genealogist Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 07:07:17 -0600 From: McKee <[email protected]> To: Linda McKee <[email protected]> __ Your Genetic Genealogist <http://www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com/> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ A List of Alternate Names for the Y-SNPs from BritainsDNA's Chromo2 Test <http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/YourGeneticGenealogist/~3/GZGzDY7s1e0/a-list-of-alternate-snp-names-for.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email> Posted: 20 Nov 2013 05:07 PM PST (For Advanced Y-DNA Researchers) Dr. James Wilson <http://www.cphs.mvm.ed.ac.uk/people/staffProfile.php?profile=jwilson7> from BritainsDNA <http://www.britainsdna.com/> has sent me a list of the alternate names for the Chromo2 <http://www.britainsdna.com/products/ydna>Y-SNPs and has given me permission to post it for public access with his comments, as follows: /Please find attached a list of alternate names for chromo2 Y SNPs...This is based on comparisons some months ago now, although a few SNPs have been updated in the meantime...Where there is no alternative name for an S SNP it means it was not listed/named in any compendium, browser or database I had available when this file was put together and is not available in any other product as far as I am aware (of course apart from a complete Y chromosome sequence)./ / Note that all the SNPs on this list manufactured on the chip, but a small proportion do not give good genotyping clusters; I haven't had time to clean them out. There are also a small number of SNPs not on this list eg S28, S250, which we Taqman <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TaqMan> in the appropriate samples as Illumina appear to have removed them from the design and they have no proxies on the chip or none known./ / In due course I also intend to share the genome co-ordinates to allow comparisons with whole Y chromosome sequences, despite this being a case of handing larger competitors the fruits of our investment. At present I have started to do that for individual SNPs that are queried on a case-by-case basis, as I don't as yet have the permissions of all of the sequenced individuals to hand out their SNPs in this way./ You can find the list here <https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7W0hlyChUPibkZFLXpCNy1GZW8&usp=sharing>. Thanks, Jim! You are subscribed to email updates from Your Genetic Genealogist <http://www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com/> To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe now <http://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/mailunsubscribe?k=5UCJKfJt2gOMrcSe4gIzScjblvg>. Email delivery powered by Google Google Inc., 20 West Kinzie, Chicago IL USA 60610

> If you haven't subscribed to CeCe's blog yet, this is what you missed this moring: > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: McKee > <[email protected]> Date: Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 6:19 AM Subject: Fwd: > Your Genetic Genealogist To: [email protected] > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Your Genetic > Genealogist <[email protected]> Date: Thu, Nov 21, > 2013 at 5:23 AM Subject: Your Genetic Genealogist To: > [email protected] > > > Your Genetic Genealogist > > A List of Alternate Names for the Y-SNPs from BritainsDNA's Chromo2 > Test > > Posted: 20 Nov 2013 05:07 PM PST (For Advanced Y-DNA Researchers) > > Dr. James Wilson from BritainsDNA has sent me a list of the alternate > names for the Chromo2 Y-SNPs and has given me permission to post it > for public access with his comments, as follows: > > Please find attached a list of alternate names for chromo2 Y > SNPs...This is based on comparisons some months ago now, although a > few SNPs have been updated in the meantime...Where there is no > alternative name for an S SNP it means it was not listed/named in any > compendium, browser or database I had available when this file was > put together and is not available in any other product as far as I am > aware (of course apart from a complete Y chromosome sequence). > > Note that all the SNPs on this list manufactured on the chip, but a > small proportion do not give good genotyping clusters; I haven't had > time to clean them out. There are also a small number of SNPs not on > this list eg S28, S250, which we Taqman in the appropriate samples as > Illumina appear to have removed them from the design and they have no > proxies on the chip or none known. > > In due course I also intend to share the genome co-ordinates to allow > comparisons with whole Y chromosome sequences, despite this being a > case of handing larger competitors the fruits of our investment. At > present I have started to do that for individual SNPs that are > queried on a case-by-case basis, as I don't as yet have the > permissions of all of the sequenced individuals to hand out their > SNPs in this way. > > You can find the list here. > > Thanks, Jim! You are subscribed to email updates from Your Genetic > Genealogist To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe now. > Email delivery powered by Google Google Inc., 20 West Kinzie, Chicago > IL USA 60610 > >

Thanks to all for the updates on the Chromo2 status for each of you. Follows is the currently known M222+ having ordered Chromo2: Mike's Chromo2 List on R1b-L21 Plus at yahoo.com: ------------------------------------------------------------------- f30771 Burns 49-2329222- uas f201623 Callahan 49-2329222- uas fB3060 Early 49-2329222- uas f155225 Ford 49-2329222- uas f235771 McBride 49-2329222- uas fB4058 McFadden 49-2329222- uas f223269 McIlveen 49-2329222- uas f231979 Guinn 49-2329222-44927 f118913 Paterson 49-2329222-48714 f16646 Conroy 49-2329222-48714-A f198682 McNally 49-2329222-55717 f8999 Wilson 49-2329222-55717 f251441 Devitt 49-23292228- uas ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Updates from L McKee after 11-19-2013 83143 Bernard Morgan 227811 David MacLennan 16212 James Ashley 205699 Robert Reid N104491 William McCollum 145320 Aidan Byrne

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Your Genetic Genealogist <[email protected]> Date: Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 5:23 AM Subject: Your Genetic Genealogist To: [email protected] Your Genetic Genealogist <http://www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com/> ------------------------------ A List of Alternate Names for the Y-SNPs from BritainsDNA's Chromo2 Test<http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/YourGeneticGenealogist/~3/GZGzDY7s1e0/a-list-of-alternate-snp-names-for.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email> Posted: 20 Nov 2013 05:07 PM PST (For Advanced Y-DNA Researchers) Dr. James Wilson<http://www.cphs.mvm.ed.ac.uk/people/staffProfile.php?profile=jwilson7>from BritainsDNA <http://www.britainsdna.com/> has sent me a list of the alternate names for the Chromo2 <http://www.britainsdna.com/products/ydna>Y-SNPs and has given me permission to post it for public access with his comments, as follows: *Please find attached a list of alternate names for chromo2 Y SNPs...This is based on comparisons some months ago now, although a few SNPs have been updated in the meantime...Where there is no alternative name for an S SNP it means it was not listed/named in any compendium, browser or database I had available when this file was put together and is not available in any other product as far as I am aware (of course apart from a complete Y chromosome sequence).* *Note that all the SNPs on this list manufactured on the chip, but a small proportion do not give good genotyping clusters; I haven't had time to clean them out. There are also a small number of SNPs not on this list eg S28, S250, which we Taqman <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TaqMan> in the appropriate samples as Illumina appear to have removed them from the design and they have no proxies on the chip or none known.* *In due course I also intend to share the genome co-ordinates to allow comparisons with whole Y chromosome sequences, despite this being a case of handing larger competitors the fruits of our investment. At present I have started to do that for individual SNPs that are queried on a case-by-case basis, as I don't as yet have the permissions of all of the sequenced individuals to hand out their SNPs in this way.* You can find the list here<https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B7W0hlyChUPibkZFLXpCNy1GZW8&usp=sharing> . Thanks, Jim! You are subscribed to email updates from Your Genetic Genealogist<http://www.yourgeneticgenealogist.com/> To stop receiving these emails, you may unsubscribe now<http://feedburner.google.com/fb/a/mailunsubscribe?k=5UCJKfJt2gOMrcSe4gIzScjblvg> . Email delivery powered by Google Google Inc., 20 West Kinzie, Chicago IL USA 60610

Are saliva samples no longer allowed to be flown/shipped the the UK? I am about to submit to ScotlandsDNA Chromo2 test, but that involves a saliva sample.

You can add me to the list - f145320 Byrne On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 11:00 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. DF85- (Linda McKee) > 2. Re: DF85- (Susan Hedeen) > 3. Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List (Linda McKee) > 4. Re: Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List (Bernard Morgan) > 5. Re: Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List (David Maclennan) > 6. Re: Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List (David Wilson) > 7. Re: Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List (Sandi Ashley Sutton) > 8. Re: Different surnames that run in a genetic series > (Sandi Ashley Sutton) > 9. 2 DF85 Test Results posted (Linda McKee) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 09:11:52 -0600 > From: Linda McKee <[email protected]> > Subject: [R-M222] DF85- > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Interesting that N113849 DF85- has 27 matches at 111 markers tested > (considerably more matches at 111 tested than I find "normal" in > M222+)------ > > ......one of which near the end of that list is also DF85-. Does it > follow that those 27 matches will be DF85-.........one of those matches > at 10gd/111 is a P312. > > Linda > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:49:40 -0500 > From: Susan Hedeen <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] DF85- > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > It's enticing to contemplate that, but we've had surprises. A set I was > looking at the other day of + and -....there were 2 groups that had a > TMRCA of 475+/- ybp between them, but members of 1 group are positive > and members of the other are negative. Obviously haplotype convergence > is responsible for that, and unfortunately, we don't know that without > the SNP testing. > > There may be some within the lineages that may contemplate that if there > is a negative or positive for any of the SNPs (NOT just df85 which at > best probably, may be positive for 25% of M222) in their ranks that the > rest of the surname will be the same. > > Please verify that indeed the lineage is intact and look hard at those > haplotyps, because if the testing has taught us anything it is that some > of the surname groups may be split my SNPs. I'm sure that everyone is > sick of being reminded of the O'Dochartaigh and McConnachie groups...we > don't know yet how many surname groups other are also affected. > > The gist is: Looking for patterns what ever they may be is always a > good thing, but don't completely settle on an opinion without verifying it. > > The ultimate verification, of course are the results from testing; > however all of you know your groups the best, and certainly not everyone > within a cluster should need to test...But make certain that it is > indeed a cluster. Susan Hedeen > > On 11/20/2013 10:11 AM, Linda McKee wrote: > > Interesting that N113849 DF85- has 27 matches at 111 markers tested > > (considerably more matches at 111 tested than I find "normal" in > > M222+)------ > > > > ......one of which near the end of that list is also DF85-. Does it > > follow that those 27 matches will be DF85-.........one of those matches > > at 10gd/111 is a P312. > > > > Linda > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 09:59:05 -0600 > From: Linda McKee <[email protected]> > Subject: [R-M222] Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Are you pending Chromo2 and not listed below? Please let me know if so. > > I know a few have received results: Paterson, Conroy, Wilson, McBride, > anyone else on the list having rec'd results? > > > f30771 Burns 49-2329222- uas > f201623 Callahan 49-2329222- uas > fB3060 Early 49-2329222- uas > f155225 Ford 49-2329222- uas > f235771 McBride 49-2329222- uas > fB4058 McFadden 49-2329222- uas > f223269 McIlveen 49-2329222- uas > f231979 Guinn 49-2329222-44927 > f118913 Paterson 49-2329222-48714 > f16646 Conroy 49-2329222-48714-A > f198682 McNally 49-2329222-55717 > f8999 Wilson 49-2329222-55717 > f251441 Devitt 49-23292228- uas > > Thanks for helping me to keep up with this. Linda > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:03:04 +0000 > From: Bernard Morgan <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List > To: dna-r1b1c7 <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Are you pending Chromo2 and not listed below? Please let me know if so. > > Yes, f83143 Morgan > > > I know a few have received results: Paterson, Conroy, Wilson, McBride, > > anyone else on the list having rec'd results? > > > > > > f30771 Burns 49-2329222- uas > > f201623 Callahan 49-2329222- uas > > fB3060 Early 49-2329222- uas > > f155225 Ford 49-2329222- uas > > f235771 McBride 49-2329222- uas > > fB4058 McFadden 49-2329222- uas > > f223269 McIlveen 49-2329222- uas > > f231979 Guinn 49-2329222-44927 > > f118913 Paterson 49-2329222-48714 > > f16646 Conroy 49-2329222-48714-A > > f198682 McNally 49-2329222-55717 > > f8999 Wilson 49-2329222-55717 > > f251441 Devitt 49-23292228- uas > > > > Thanks for helping me to keep up with this. Linda > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:26:17 +0000 > From: David Maclennan <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > < > [email protected]TORAD.Utoronto.ca > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Linda, > My Chromo 2 kit was mailed back to the UK last week. It should be > in > batch preparation by now. > David MacLennan Kit# 227811 > > On 2013-11-20 10:59 AM, "Linda McKee" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >Are you pending Chromo2 and not listed below? Please let me know if so. > > > >I know a few have received results: Paterson, Conroy, Wilson, McBride, > >anyone else on the list having rec'd results? > > > > > >f30771 Burns 49-2329222- uas > >f201623 Callahan 49-2329222- uas > >fB3060 Early 49-2329222- uas > >f155225 Ford 49-2329222- uas > >f235771 McBride 49-2329222- uas > >fB4058 McFadden 49-2329222- uas > >f223269 McIlveen 49-2329222- uas > >f231979 Guinn 49-2329222-44927 > >f118913 Paterson 49-2329222-48714 > >f16646 Conroy 49-2329222-48714-A > >f198682 McNally 49-2329222-55717 > >f8999 Wilson 49-2329222-55717 > >f251441 Devitt 49-23292228- uas > > > >Thanks for helping me to keep up with this. Linda > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 08:35:53 -0800 > From: David Wilson <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Linda, my Chromo2 results are not in yet. I did get notice that my FG > sequencing was complete, but there is still the analysis phase to get > through on that exercise. With luck I might have results from both > companies by the end of the month or part way through December. > > David/8999 > > > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 09:59:05 -0600 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [R-M222] Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List > > > > Are you pending Chromo2 and not listed below? Please let me know if so. > > > > I know a few have received results: Paterson, Conroy, Wilson, McBride, > > anyone else on the list having rec'd results? > > > > > > f30771 Burns 49-2329222- uas > > f201623 Callahan 49-2329222- uas > > fB3060 Early 49-2329222- uas > > f155225 Ford 49-2329222- uas > > f235771 McBride 49-2329222- uas > > fB4058 McFadden 49-2329222- uas > > f223269 McIlveen 49-2329222- uas > > f231979 Guinn 49-2329222-44927 > > f118913 Paterson 49-2329222-48714 > > f16646 Conroy 49-2329222-48714-A > > f198682 McNally 49-2329222-55717 > > f8999 Wilson 49-2329222-55717 > > f251441 Devitt 49-23292228- uas > > > > Thanks for helping me to keep up with this. Linda > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:46:46 -0500 > From: "Sandi Ashley Sutton" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Chromo2 Tests Pending Check List > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Linda, > > We are pending Chromo2 with BritainsDNA - James Ashley f16212. > > Thanks, > Sandi > > > > > Are you pending Chromo2 and not listed below? Please let me know if so. > > I know a few have received results: Paterson, Conroy, Wilson, McBride, > anyone else on the list having rec'd results? > > > f30771 Burns 49-2329222- uas > f201623 Callahan 49-2329222- uas > fB3060 Early 49-2329222- uas > f155225 Ford 49-2329222- uas > f235771 McBride 49-2329222- uas > fB4058 McFadden 49-2329222- uas > f223269 McIlveen 49-2329222- uas > f231979 Guinn 49-2329222-44927 > f118913 Paterson 49-2329222-48714 > f16646 Conroy 49-2329222-48714-A > f198682 McNally 49-2329222-55717 > f8999 Wilson 49-2329222-55717 > f251441 Devitt 49-23292228- uas > > Thanks for helping me to keep up with this. Linda > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:13:10 -0500 > From: "Sandi Ashley Sutton" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [R-M222] Different surnames that run in a genetic series > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Thank you, Iain, for structuring and maintaining the Main M222 Tree View > and the Split Tree View Charts. I refer to them often. As an eager > student, the charts help me clarify the location of the recent outpouring > of new SNPS. > > I very much look forward to further additions with the ongoing testing. > > Again, thank you very much. > Sandi Ashley Sutton > > > > > > > > > > I don't see much value in the Split Tree View of M222. Because there is no > prove that the participants of different surenames run in a genetic > series.This notion is often called an infinite series. It does however > prove > that they run parallel to each other, until proved otherwise.The big > picture > will be revealed when we find matches across the pond there are thousands > here in the us that are not in the M222 project that are possibly in > series > . Mathematics One of a set of parallel geometric figures, such as lines or > > planes > The terms of the series are often produced according to a certain rule, > such as by a formula, or by an algorithm. As there are an infinite number > of > terms, this notion is often called an infinite series. Unlike finite > summations, infinite series need tools from mathematical analysis, and > specifically the notion of limits > Gene > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:00:32 -0600 > From: Linda McKee <[email protected]> > Subject: [R-M222] 2 DF85 Test Results posted > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > 271782.....Kevin Thomason M222+ DF85- > > N114844....Joseph Moran M222+ DF85- > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of DNA-R1B1C7 Digest, Vol 7, Issue 457 > ****************************************** >

The cost to return my Chromo2 sample from the US was $9.45 USD. I had to attach a USPS Customs Declaration per Kit instructions from IrelandsDNA, which also says to send the package by airmail or special delivery and "please do not post surface mail". (I could not send it surface mail from California if I wanted to.) Even though the kit was from Ireland's DNA, the return mail address is in Nottingham, England. Ireland's, Scotland's, Britain's or Yorkshire's DNA - they are all part of the same stew. Which does not bother me so long as we get the test result that help our M222 etc. research. Bob Doherty Sent from my iPad

271782.....Kevin Thomason M222+ DF85- N114844....Joseph Moran M222+ DF85-

Linda, My Chromo 2 kit was mailed back to the UK last week. It should be in batch preparation by now. David MacLennan Kit# 227811 On 2013-11-20 10:59 AM, "Linda McKee" <[email protected]> wrote: >Are you pending Chromo2 and not listed below? Please let me know if so. > >I know a few have received results: Paterson, Conroy, Wilson, McBride, >anyone else on the list having rec'd results? > > >f30771 Burns 49-2329222- uas >f201623 Callahan 49-2329222- uas >fB3060 Early 49-2329222- uas >f155225 Ford 49-2329222- uas >f235771 McBride 49-2329222- uas >fB4058 McFadden 49-2329222- uas >f223269 McIlveen 49-2329222- uas >f231979 Guinn 49-2329222-44927 >f118913 Paterson 49-2329222-48714 >f16646 Conroy 49-2329222-48714-A >f198682 McNally 49-2329222-55717 >f8999 Wilson 49-2329222-55717 >f251441 Devitt 49-23292228- uas > >Thanks for helping me to keep up with this. Linda > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> Are you pending Chromo2 and not listed below? Please let me know if so. Yes, f83143 Morgan > I know a few have received results: Paterson, Conroy, Wilson, McBride, > anyone else on the list having rec'd results? > > > f30771 Burns 49-2329222- uas > f201623 Callahan 49-2329222- uas > fB3060 Early 49-2329222- uas > f155225 Ford 49-2329222- uas > f235771 McBride 49-2329222- uas > fB4058 McFadden 49-2329222- uas > f223269 McIlveen 49-2329222- uas > f231979 Guinn 49-2329222-44927 > f118913 Paterson 49-2329222-48714 > f16646 Conroy 49-2329222-48714-A > f198682 McNally 49-2329222-55717 > f8999 Wilson 49-2329222-55717 > f251441 Devitt 49-23292228- uas > > Thanks for helping me to keep up with this. Linda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

*N115028 -- Coleman* --* DF85+* -Paul (DF41+) On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Linda McKee <[email protected]> wrote: > N54323.....John Lee Quinn....DF85 > > N115028....John Linville Coleman...DF85 > > 115365....Robert Charles Gwinn.....DF97 > > > Just checked and no new test results posted this afternoon or evening. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >