I am very gently, and very PROPERLY, corrected by Mr. Dunn that the "John Johnson" of the 1643 New Haven census is NOT the same as he who married Elizabeth Disbrow, divorcee of Rolfe in 1651 (per Savage). I also must note several of my own up-dates of the New Haven 1643 list comparisons I was trying to make: the ship lists of the two HOPEWELL passages in 1635 show a considerable number of "Parryers" there, obviously none of these are Pennoyers, as I speculated previous post, all which I now recall as same reason I once dismissed this earlier as variant of "Pennoyer" name when first reading these ship lists,...sorry! Many other "provoking" names are, indeed, there on HOPEWELL lists, however (see these at: http://www.mayflowerfamilies.com/ships/hopewell.htm ), and now including (here we go again!): "WIBROE Cooper", with other Coopers, & as noted earlier post for comparison. Seems I recall also a "Wasbrowes" parish, or some such, back in England in my notes....Ah yes, here it is: from the related wills of Rose Disbrowe and those "high-born" Holworthy, ....Waters says, Ap 1891, p. 155: " NATHANIEL HALWORTHY: My body to be buried in the parish church of St. Wasbrowes (sic) [my note, SS: this orthographic correction is made by Waters for some now "provoking" unknown reason!], near to my father Mr. Richard Holworthy, and I do appoint forty pounds to bury me and for funeral charges, at my brother Crofte's discretion...." Holworthy goes on to mention a "...Mr. Jones, the minister, to preach my funeral sermon [at Bristol England in 1668; & certainly well after death in 1664/5 of our Rev. John Jones of Fairfiield, CT]. To Mr. Palmer the minister a piece of gold of twenty shillings...etc." Here follows Mr. Dunn's very courteous private reminder to me (and he has my grateful thanks for this! But folks, please do feel very free to post ANY corrections for discussion, &/or up-date, directly onto the List, with my own sincere thanks for these). While I'm at it, I must also correct a somewhat more serious error of my own making which I noticed myself soon after, as follows from a private e-mail: "....[snip] I was WRONG(!) in one of my quickly posted List-mails (which I will be correcting next post...."before" somebody else has to!) saying that WALTER Butler was on 1640 Htfd Map,... I meant to say that "William" was this Butler (W/ both a Richard & William noted in both Samuel's & his brother, Wm Pennoyer's, two earlier wills per Waters---Samuel's notes a "Richard Butler" in 1654 will, but is HE too young, as he is "student in the University of Cambridge" it says there??? (sadly, I DO NOT have a clue whether this may mean at Cambridge, Eng. or Harvard U. at Cambridge, MA ...tho. must look up for the 1654 dates re: year of Harvard's founding/& naming of Cambridge, MA to eliminate --but unfort. NOT to confirm---this latter possibility ---perhaps they may even have a record of a "Richard Butler" matriculating early THERE, ha, ha...??? But not TOO funny since HE may have been an early Butler at Harvard, just as Wm Pennoyer set-up what is NOW known 'famously'(?) as the "Pennoyer Aid" at Harvard---of course, you have by now clicked-on that incredible Pennoyer website I gave in my earlier post to List about Harvard connection! Heady stuff going on here....! Curiously (or not! since NOW I can hardly tell about "coincidences" vs old family-networks identifiable over centuries!!), I have an old college 'chum'/acquaintance who is now [as of 1995] the Director of the [Houghton] Library at Harvard, so might just have to ask him about all this.... Of course, William's 1670 will notes TWO "William Butlers", of unknown possible links to the Wm on Htfd, CT 1640 Map also...[snip]." Mr. Dunn's correction about John Johnson: ....[snip] JOHN, New Haven 1643, counts five in fam. prob. the propr. with others of the name, 1685; may be he, wh. came in the James from London, 1630, aged 26; with w. Susan, 24; Elizabeth 2; and Thomas, 18 mos. wh. may be thot. a blunder by the custom ho. clk. for 8 mos. At New Haven had Daniel, b. 1648, bapt. 6 Mar. 1653; Samuel, 25 Feb. bapt. 1 Mar. 1654; Hannah, 4, bapt. 8 Feb. 1657; Sarah, 26, bapt. 28 Aug. 1664; and Abigail, wh. m. 1690, Joseph Foote of Branford. Perhaps he was br. of Edmund, a fellow-passeng. but it must be left for larger inq. to reach certainty. Ano. JOHN came from London 1635, in the Elizabeth, aged 23, of wh. I can guess nothing, but kn. that one John, for serv. in the Pequot war, 1637, had gr. in Conn. of fifty acres in 1671. He may be the freem. of Guilford, 1669, or of New Haven. The Guilford John m. Elizabeth Disbrow, 1 Oct. 1651, wh. had been divorc. that yr. for offence of her h. Thomas Relph, Rolfe, or Relfe, wh. ran off to R. I. He had four ch. by her, John; Ruth, b. 8 Nov. 1654; Isaac, 8 Mar. 1656; and Abigail, 5 Dec. 1659. His w. d. 23 Dec. 1669; and he d. 1681, in his will of 22 Nov. that yr. calls hims. 63 yrs. old, nam. these four ch.....[snip]"