Thanks Steve Squires for posting the VR of Eltisley. References The VR of Eltisley posted by Barbara Hutchings in Sep 2000. The abstract which I posted using the above as source on Sep 17, 2002, titled "Parentage of Thomas Disbrow, 1625" The VR posted by Stephen Squires, Oct 2, 2002, titled "Eltisley Vital Records - Disbrow baptisms"/ A comparison shows 3 differences: 2 of them are baptisms where the year is different, OS vs. NS - Anna 1618/19, and Isaac 1624/25 The only one showing difference in parents was Elizabeth 1622, where my abstract shows James Jr and Mr. Squires does not show Sr. or Jr. The point at issue is whether Thomas, baptized 1625, was brother of Major General John. Approaching this from a different angle: 1. The Dictionary of National Biography shows the parents of Major General John (and Samuel) to be James Disbrowe and Elizabeth Hatley. 2. The VR, Marriage records, (which Mr. Squires has yet to post), give a marriage of James Disbrowe SENIOR to Elizabeth Marshall. 3. The VR's give the parents of Thomas, baptized as James Disbrowe SENIOR. Unless 1 (or all 3 ) of the above items are in error, one must conclude that the aforesaid Thomas is not a brother to the Major General John or Samuel.