I have watched ( with interest and some amusement} the exchange of information regarding the Eltisley Disbrowes and make my comments for those not familiar with "the English scene", although I hope that Stephen and Carl will be able to shed some light on my questions. I am English and my father was born in Cambridge - my family goes back 6 generations in Cambridge. I have been researching the family in Cambridge, revisiting villages from my youthful past,over the last 4 years.I must qualify myself as an " Internet Genealogist" as I am an amateur using English qualified genealogists. We are all human beings and as such are susceptible to misinformation( unintentionally) from qualified records and people.. >From my own experience I have found mistakes in recorded information and many of the church records have gaps that are not covered in the BTs.I have researched many of the parish records in Cambridgeshire and Huntingdonshire( even my home county of Bedfordshire), Wills,Land Records et al.and I have finished up more confused than when I started. People are mentioned in wills who have not been recorded as born,Couples have children but there is no record of their marriages and there are families where deaths are not recorded so they obviously moved from their local villages and died somewhere else. I have searched the villages and have found but a few matches.. I have the microfiche of most of the parishes prepared by the Cambridgeshire Family History Society in conjunction with the Cambridge Records Office and I have more questions that answers on Eltisley and Over. 1.The burial of Mr James Disbrow in Over in 1633 indicates a "Gentleman", but I have not yet found a will.Who went to Over first,James, Nathaniel who married Clemens there in 1618 or Joseph,Nathaniel's brother?? Is the Mr James the James mentioned in John Disbrow, the Elder's will(but not mentioned as son). Was it the same James that married Elizabeth Marshall in 1605? 2.The Over parish records that I have record the Hatley family but no Elizabeth and she was not recorded as marrying James in Over or Eltisley. However, the Eltisley parish register records Elizabeth Hatley wife of James being buried in 1628.Jacobus Jnr was buried on December 1 1634 and Jacobus( no Snr or Jnr) on October 23 1638. I have the wills but they are difficult to read with any certainty 3. There are unfortunately several marriages of James( or Jacobus) to Elizabeths. -1805 James Disbrow (the Elder) to Elizabeth Marshall. -1626 Jacobus Disbrow to Elizabeth Barron.............who is this ? -1630 James Disbrow Jnr to Anna Probey ( assumed to be Major General John's brother ) -1639 Jacobus Disbrow to Anne Waple. ( again not identified but could have followed Anna Probey except that another researcher of the clan stated that Maudlin Marburie was the second wife) 4. I do not have any record of the deaths of the above wives.......The Elizabeth who died in 1608 I have assumed to be the daughter of James Jnr and Elizabeth born the same year. If I am wrong and it was Marshal then we have another question.. 5. My recollection of the use of Senior and Junior in England referred to the eldest person in the village of that name and not necessarily father/son.If James senior died or moved out of the village James junior became senior. In which case, if the James(Jacobus) Senior of 1605 (Elizabeth Marshall ) left the village before 1622,then James junior( Elizabeth Hatley) would become James Senior. James ,brother of Major General John , was recorded as being baptized in 1606 to James Junior and Elizabeth ( Hatley?). The issue seems to me to be when did James senior of 1605 ( Elizabeth Marshall) leave the village????? Would that not resolve the question of Thomas' father if he left before 1625?? I am trying to offer suggestions not make statements as I think that the whole concept of ancestral information is clouded in a whole lot of secrecy due to the religious disruptions of the time. At least that is what I have experienced in my investigations. I would appreciate any answers to my questions and comments. Meanwhile can we remember that we all only trying to seek the truth. Isn't that life?????? Brian Disbury. Tucson.