----- Original Message ----- From: "Susann Gilbert" <susanngilbert@bellsouth.net> To: "Mary Jo Neyer" <maryjo@neyersoftware.com> Cc: "Michael Disbrow" <dizzy@michweb.net> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [DISBROW] Disbrow DNA project > Unfortunately, your criteria is too constrained. My son was born a pure > 13th generation Disbro, born in 1980, until he was adopted by James Davis > in 1989. Since your samplings require a pure Disbro surname and lineage, > I see that he cannot participate in your conservative study. You see, he > was born illegitimate and properly named "Disbro" until he was adopted and > changed his surname. Sorry that the prerequisite is so strict. He is a > straight genetic line. These genetic things are so stupid, as per this > example. They require parochial lifestyles and conservative lineage. > Because this is a conservative study, and not scientific, it is doomed. > It makes no amends for human foibles. Hence, it shall fail. Your church > shall probably give you some sort of consolation. Best of luck, and may > your God bless. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Jo Neyer" <maryjo@neyersoftware.com> > To: <DISBROW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2005 4:30 PM > Subject: [DISBROW] Disbrow DNA project > > >> Dear Mike, >> >> Thanks for putting the proper web address for the project up on this >> line. I do struggle with computer skills - my training is all in history >> and linguistics. There is no minum number of participants, but to get a >> sampling of the various branches is helpful. The reason is we are trying >> to find out if all the Disbrows have a common ancestor, or if there are >> various descendants of different progenitors who simply share the same >> surname, whether by adoption, or some other non-paternal event. >> Also, I am glad you pointed out that one of our goals is not to prove >> that we are descended from Gen Desborough, but to find out if one or more >> branches are or are not descended from him. This is a simple and fool >> proof method of answering that question once and for all. >> If we can get samples of several different second and third cousins, >> we can determine the original haplotypes of the founder or founders. For >> example, the most common haplotypes for men from the British Isles are >> R1b and I. Other types are certainly present, and if it is one of these >> smaller haplotypes, we can pinpoint the ancestor's origin to a specific >> geographic location- for example, J2 would lead to the probability that >> the ancestor was of Roman origin. R1b is the original or "Celtic" type, >> while forms of I are Viking. Furthermore, there are various subdivisions >> of these groups, so that I1a, for example means Danish or Anglo-Saxon >> Viking, while R1a or I with other allele signatures tells one that the >> ancestor came from Norway. I even know of 2 British men who found out >> that their haplotype was Q-from India- which probably means that their >> ancestors in Britain were gypsies. >> I know the vocabulary is technical and that is one reason I have offered >> to help coordinate the project. I have been studying these terms and >> have been working with other projects, so am familiar with them and can >> help people understand there is more to the project than just the >> question of Gen Desborough. >> Thanks for writing. Mary Jo >> >> >> ==== DISBROW Mailing List ==== >> The Disbrow Family Web Site: >> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Ranch/5853 >> >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> >> >