I better post this following or forget it forever (OK, not likely!)...BOTH Nicholas Disbrowe and Robert Pennoyer were wood "turners" by trade... or, as would be a bit MORE accurate, perhaps, at least for our own Nicholas Disbrowe: that HE was a "joyner" (not as in country clubs or something!). They BOTH worked with wood, fashioning fabulous things! In the case of our Nicholas Disbrowe of Hooker's Hartford (Nicholas who arrived there abt 1637, two years AFTER Hooker...see below...), well we actually can still touch many of Nicholas' ancient items of handy-work, including the most famous item of all at the Houston Museum of Fine Arts (if only I'd known back when I lived in Texas for couple years after college). This is the only known example of a "signed" 17th c. piece of furniture (the Allyn Chest), with other scattered Disbrowe items, including one at the CT Historical Society in Htfd: the famous "Governor's" chair (Gee, everything seems to be getting quite "famous! " with our suddenly NOT so obscure Disbrow/e's, eh what..??). That chair was "apparently" made for Gov. John Winthrop, Jr. upon his return in 1662 from England with CT's famous Charter (which also not so incidentally obliterated New Haven, ...guess why!)---SO, recall the CHARTER OAK story---a story which surprisingly or not, also comes to us via our same olde friend ---and Mercy Disbrow's too (God bless him!)--Rev. Gershom Buckeley from his published work, WILL & DOOM, wherein he excoriates Charter government while "vividly" defending our own family "witch:" my poor Mercy (ah yes, poor Mercy... such trials, even now then!!). Well, the point of these two: Robert Pennoyer & Nicholas Disbrowe being career twins by sharing the wood-working trade (turners, joyners), ...have you guessed it yet----YES exactly!, the point being Matthew Cradock's truly very extensive ship-building 'conglomerate' on the banks of the Merrimac River at Medford, MA in the early 1630's (our Nicholas does NOT show up in Hartford until 1637, serving first in Pequot War as soldier then)...YES, certainly Robert Pennoyer was at Medford after his 1635 ship arrives, leaving abt 1640 or so, absconding suddenly to Long Island (this period would likely be BEFORE our Disbrows were in that area too, certainly before Peter Disbrow buys Rye). Is it then at least possible that our own Nicholas Disbrowe, a fellow wood-craftsman of true skill & present fame, himself may have been likewise "brought over" specifically for his craft use at Medford "factory" (his Disbrowe "Network" being determinative!). We do know Robert Pennoyer was at ! Medford, says the book "Pennoyer Brothers," & that he must have applied his wood-craft to Cradock's ships. Couldn't Nicholas Disbrowe also have then been doing exactly so in those early "lost" years of the 1630's??? Recall, that Nicholas Disbrow's own father (also Nicholas, back in Saffron Walden, England) was himself ALSO a "joyner" of undoubted skill-- judging from the son's. Saffron Walden, BTW, is close to Eltisley, as crow flies, and was even the site of couple very important councils of war by Cromwell himself during Civil War years.... Speaking of "famous" then...while I have much more still on this yet, re: our Disbrowe "Network" & the Winthrop clan, ...it is NOT at all insignificant that the son of CT's Governor John Winthrop, Jr, namely "Fitz John," himself became an officer under General Monck in SCOTLAND at the very same time our own Samuel Disbrowe was so prominent there in the civil administration, after Samuel's return from CT 1650/51 (Samuel, you'll recall, was soon enuf to become Chancellor/Keeper of the Great Seal of Scotland under Cromwell, ...so why not!). Meanwhile, Fitz John's own uncle, Col. Stephen Winthrop (son of Governor John Winthrop, Sr. of MA Bay Colony) himself served on several committees of the administration under Samuel Disbrowe's direct leadership of them in Scotland (including, according to Firth, a committee to regulate the Scottish universities, I believe it was where I saw his name on the short list; also see "Perry of London" by Price, p. 16 & note 45, p. 146). Thes! e "lesser" Winthrops served in Scotland with our own Disbrowe, and then along with him were several other vitally important New Englanders whom Disbrowe obviously must have recruited from his time back in frontier CT: Richard Saltonstall, Jr., George Fenwick, & George Downing... but then all that's another "string" for a rainy day, not this beautiful sunny one! Suffice to say, from author Price in his "Perry of London": ..."of the four, the most important was Disbrowe, who had lived in New Haven colony from 1639 to 1650...and whose superior connections made him a member of Parliament, a member of Cromwell's council in Scotland, a judge of exchequer, Lord Keeper and ultimately Chancellor of Scotland." page 16. BTW, (there is always a "BTW" to the stories of our family!!), Governor John Winthrop, Sr. of MA Bay Col., himself married, as his fourth wife the year before he died, one "Martha Rainsborough." Meanwhile her own younger sister, Judith, married the old Governor's own 4th son: the above named Col. Stephen Winthrop (he had become Colonel in Cromwell's "New Model Army")! Now what is truly "fun" here happens to be fact that the uncle of both these two Rainsborough sisters who married Winthrops (father & son Winthrops at that, just like my own CT Fitch also m. MASON sisters, ...so there!!), well this uncle, Major William Rainsborough (according to Maurice Ashley's book: "John Wildman") was arrested with our own Major General John Disbrowe in 1660 upon the royalist scare of a plot to burn London & kill General Monck for betraying the "Good Old Cause," this via something called WHITE'S PLOT by a Captain White (say weren't there Whites who had married a sister or two of Rose! Hobson Pennoyer Disbrowe, Samuel's 2nd wife?!!), which "plot" may have been, but probably wasn't then, actually for real! ....HUMMM, so what ALL goes on here....trust me to figure it "all" out (...I hope!), so back to London gang, STSquires