In a message dated 9/16/02 9:49:35 AM Central Daylight Time, dizzy@michweb.net writes: > > I hesitate to be a skeptic, but it seems we are taking Noble at his word a > bit too willingly here, without any other corroborative evidence (I've been > watching too much Court TV lately!). Or am I wrong? Yes, there was a Thomas > Disbrowe (or perhaps more than one?) in the area at about the right time, etc. > , but what proof do we have for his parentage? I cannot answer the question of the identify of Thomas Disbrow, the immigrant, but In the archives of this list, in Sep 2000, the heading is Inst#3, as I recall, will be found Baptisms-Marriages- Burials of Eltisley in the 1600s. This was submitted by Barbara Hutchins, from material developed by Della Alsup Disbrow who got it from either the Bishops Transcripts or Parish records of Eltisley, Cambridge. Those who are interested can look this up in the archives. We find a Thomas Disbrowe, baptized 25 Oct 1625, son of James Disbrowe SENIOR, and Elizabeth. Now there were two James Disbrowe's both with wives Elizabeth in Eltisley who were contemporaneous. The James Disbrowe called Senior was married to Elizabeth Marshall, 1 Aug 1605. The James Disbrowe called Junior was married to Elizabeth Hatley and they were parents of John Disbrowe, the Major General, and Samuel, the one who was in Connecticut and later returned to England. James Disbrowe JUNIOR was buried 1 Dec 1634. His father was John Disbrowe, died 1610. James Disbrowe SENIOR was buried 23 Oct 1638 in Eltisley. It is uncertain who his father was. The following is speculation - it is not proven - we need more wills. It is possible (perhaps even probable) that James Disbrowe SENIOR was son of Bruno Disbrowe. This Bruno being the brother of the John who died 1610. I base this solely on the fact that this James SENIOR had a son Bruno. In addition, Steve Squires, just today posted will information of Jeffrey Disbrowe of Whaddon. This Jeffrey also had a son Bruno. He also had a brother James. It would fit that he was a brother of James SENIOR. I point out that SENIOR and JUNIOR do not refer to father and son - only that 2 of the same name and parish were present and one was elder. I believe that I have seen it claimed that Thomas Disbrowe was brother to John, the Major General, and Samuel, the Connecticut erstwhile resident. This is not correct as per the Eltisley records. As to whether the Thomas born 1625 is the 1677 immigrant, I leave it to others to contemplate.