Hi, I just subscribed and am tossing in my DILLON family connection: 1 CARTER Charles, born ABT 1820. A descendent of Israel Carter [Bruerd family history letter]. Owned land in NE LibertyTwp, UnionCo,OH near town of Broadway [Atlas]. + DILLON ???, born ABT 1820. Married ABT 1850. 2 CARTER Mary Annis, born 17 Jul 1851, died 24 Jul 1914. [my line] 2 CARTER Crawford, born ABT 1850. 2 CARTER Edna, born ABT 1850. So far, I haven't found a name but I have a bunch of xeroxed pages from my Ohio trip to analyze. I'd love to talk hear about the Dillon family(s) that lived in that part of Ohio. -dave eaton in santa cruz mountains

Hi I'm Laura Larkin from Princeton, WV I have found these variations in census and other records. Dillion /Dillon/Dillyon/Dillian Dillyan Family Harvey George Dillion is my known Dillion. He is believed to be the son of James Dillion/Dillon b. 1771 m. 1789 in Franklin Co Va to Martha Belcher dau/o Isham Belcher and Elizabeth Clay Harvey George Dillion b. ca 1818 Va, a farmer, he lived in Skygusty (Va before 1863) WV. Lost one leg by 1870. d. between 1880 and 1900, married ca 1842.Tazewell Co 1850 census lists his occupation as that of teacher. He was once called a District Supervisor, this might have been the way he met.. Elizabeth Jane Huddleston ( Betsy Hudnal?) b. ca 1823 in Kanawha Valley VA (WV after 1863), d. after 1880 in McDowell Co. WV, by 1870 had asthma. Check out my webpage http://www.geocities.com/heartland/meadows/8524 -- John LOVELACE/LAWS, NC (1756)*James LOVELACE/BROWN, TN (1794)*William B. LOVELACE/WEISS, VA(1819)*Elbert S. LOVELACE/RUSSELL VA (1847)*James C. LOVELACE/NEWSOME,VA(1874)*J.C.LOVELACE/BAILEY VA/WVA(1905)*HARMAN MURPHY, DILLION, SHANNON, Laura Lovelace Larkin [email protected]

Hi: My grandmother on my father's side of the family was Bertha Dillon who was the daughter of Henry Dillon and his wife Emmaline Galpin. Bertha was born dec 6, 1869 in Lineville, IA or Lineville, MO. Lineville is on the border. Henry Dillon was born around 1842 Near Sunbury, OH as was his wife Emmaline Galpin. They died in Lineville in 1896 and 1902. I do not know the names of Henry's parents, but believe his father was Hugh Dillon and mother was named Ruth (?). I am certainly willing to share what information I have on the Dillon family and others. Perry Adams [email protected] For those interested there is a fairly accurate book out on the Galpin family that shows a Henry's marriage to Emmaline Galpin as well as a Jane Galpin who married Abraham Dillon.

I would appreciate hearing from anyone with a VINCENT DILLON in their line or research. So far I have four and have never heard of one in any other line in OH or PA. All mine are found in Greene Co., PA; Monroe Co.,OH; and Lawrence Co., OH. Henry S. Dillon

Seeking info on the Dillion family of Catherine Dillon who married George Snider in PA or VA/WV. They lived in Monongalia/Preston Co. VA/WV. There was a Dillon family in Taylor Co, WV. May be connected. Thanks, Lyle Corder

Here is my dillon connection 1. Nancy Dillon b. 1784 Jessamine co. Ky. d. 1827 Jessamine co. Ky. m. Aug. 21,1804 Fayette co. Ky. Samuel Hicks 2. Thomas Dillon d. bef. 9-1803 Jessamine co. Ky. m. Esabella/Nancy ? Any help will be appreciated. Lewis Wyman Preferred Company [email protected]

Hi. I am looking for ancestors, descendants of Thomas Dillon, born about 1819 in either PA or OH, both places listed on different census. Thomas was married to Sarah, born in OH. Their children in 1850, Monroe County, OH were: Morris, 13 years, born OH Ann, 12 years, born OH Eliza, 8 years, born OH. Morris, in the OtterCreek Township, Tama County, IA census was living with his wife in her father's home. John Farley, 54 years, born OH (1870 OtterCreek census says born PA Lovina, wife, 57 years, born VA (1870 OtterCreek census says KY Morris Dillon, 23 years, born OH Rachel Farley-Dillon, 19 years, born OH Morris is said to have died during the Civil War shortly before the birth of his only daughter, Hattie Belle Dillon, born abot 1865. I would like to find the Dillon, and Farley lines. Rachel Farley-Dillon later married a man by the name of Gilpin. Hattie Belle, about 1881, married Rochester Hungerford Sterling, descendant of Gov. William Bradfore, Pilgrims, 1620. Any help would be appreciated. Lady Mary

I'm looking for information on Robert Dillon b. 1820 VA (per census) married to Eliza b. 1822 (no surname known.) I descend from their son, James b. 1846 VA (per census) married to Adelia Wood b. 1852 VA. They had a son, Napolean Bonaparte Dillon b. June 1875 married to Gertrude (Glenn???) b. Feb.1878 OH. Their son, Franklin Hubert Dillon b. 1904 St Albans WV married Dorothy Sines. Franklin died very young (he caught pnuemonia after jumping into the river to save a drowning man) and left only my grandmother, Kathleen Dillon. I would love to have more information about the family and to find more about their spouses family. My nearest library (35 miles away) is called a "Southern History Library" and contains only a couple of books about WV counties or old VA counties now in WV. I have some information on other siblings of the above mentioned folks and will be glad to share what I have. Thanks! Laura Brown McK

Evening everyone! I am changing ISP's within the month. If any of you are using my old email address [email protected] , please quit using it now. They will not be forwarding my mail to me. Please use [email protected] No matter where I move to, this redirector email will find me! The webpages will be moved to a separate domain name http://www.kryptkeeper.com/ later in Septemeber but for the time being will be listed at http://www.kimbanet.com/~schulter/ Thanks ya'll, Dana -- Dana Whisonant-Schulter http://www.angelfire.com/biz/kryptkeeper/

I am searching for Elizabeth Dillon, b:1801 in Greene Co., TN d:1864 Wayne Co., IA Married Jonathan Beals 1819 in Greene Co., TN. She is NOT the daughter of Peter Dillon in Greene Co. That fact has already been proven. But who were her parents and siblings? Thank you, I appreciate your help very much. Marcie Van Deren Kalispell, MT [email protected]

Hi Dana and list members, If no one steps forward with a burning desire to moderate the DILLON-L list, please let me volunteer to take over the list. Jim Young SUMPTER-L List Moderator ===================== At 10:37 AM 08/08/1997 -0400, you wrote: >Dear List Members, > >After careful consideration, I have decided to resign from the position >as Listowner. If someone else would like to pick up this list, then step >forward now. My other lists are coming off Rootsweb completely for the >safety of my members, who are writing books or who plan to do so. >Otherwise, this list will be terminated within a week. > >Dana > >(James and Margaret Dillon of Floyd County, VA and daughter Ann Nettie >Dillon born 1876) > > >

Dear List Members, After careful consideration, I have decided to resign from the position as Listowner. If someone else would like to pick up this list, then step forward now. My other lists are coming off Rootsweb completely for the safety of my members, who are writing books or who plan to do so. Otherwise, this list will be terminated within a week. Dana (James and Margaret Dillon of Floyd County, VA and daughter Ann Nettie Dillon born 1876)

Hi All! Now that GenForum has contacted one of these lists, I think it is time that I bring you up to date on issues that I have brought to your attention before. There has been a lot of discussion lately on the list owner mailing list about GenForum. Basically, the "GenForum Staff"is alleged to have plagerized the web pages of John Fuller ( http://users.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html ) to develop the GenForum web site. At the time GenForum site went on the web, there was significant evidence to their "theft" on the GenForum web site. The proof was that virtually every surname from John's site was listed on GenForum, including all of the variations or lack of variations as listed at John's site. John asked me before he listed our surname mailing list on his site. GenForum did not request anything from me. As a result of complaints by listowners, GenForum removed the variations that were posted on their web pages without removing the "root" surname, to me an admission that the charges were true. As well, they removed all messages that had been posted on their site by anyone who mentioned anything about mailing lists, probably as result of the complaints by list owners. As well, many who posted comments at the web site were warned, if they contained the phrase "RootsWeb" in the message (and several other keywords associated with mailing lists), that their message contained objectionable language and that if they continued, their internet service provider would be notified. Cliff has blocked listowners and the words ROOTSWEB, STEAL, STOLEN and LIST OWNERS from the system. It will give you an "Inappropriate words" error and you must change it. Some believe that GenForum's goal is to have a web site with a high visitor count so that they can attract advertising dollars. Another issue is that whatever is said on the Forum can be later used by CLiff for monetary gain. I am including a couple of very applicable messages from the beginning of this issue. At 07:05 PM 7/16/97 -0400, John Fuller wrote: >Hi Cliff: > ><< GenForum is fully aware of Genealogy Resources of the Internet at >http://users.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html and in no way does our content, >graphics, or format resemble John and Chris's site. If it is the surnames >that are similar and that you think we have copied from them, then you need >to get your information straight. John and Chris have taken the list of >mailing lists from RootsWeb, and republished them on their own site. John >and Chris could be liable for republishing RootsWeb's list of mailing lists. >>> > >Obviously you have been misinformed. As any of the owners of the lists on >rootsweb can tell you, I have been the one who has worked with them on their >entries for the Genealogy Resources on the Internet file. Once the list >owners and I have decided on these entries, I pass them to rootsweb for >inclusion in their list of lists. Therefore, any thought that Chris and I >have copied the rootsweb list of mailing list is patently false. This message >is being provided to these list owners and they are welcome (and urged) to >comment as appropriate. > >In addition, you include a significant number of surnames and variations on >your web pages that are associated with mailing lists that are not on >rootsweb ... and they track exactly with the list of mailing lists in the >Genealogy Resources on the Internet file. One wonders where you came up with >these surnames since the associated mailing lists are not served by rootsweb. >I tend to doubt that you spent the long hours that I have to track them down >... and coordinate with the list owners. This is obviously the result of >copying the information from the Genealogy Resources on the Internet web >pages. > ><< Now in response to whether we have infringed on RootsWeb: The RootsWeb >people are fully aware of GenForum and we have been talking to them, and will >resolve the issue shortly. >> > >The issue from the perspective of Chris and I is not one of infringement on >rootsweb ... there is no doubt in our minds, and those of other prominant >members of the genealogy community, that you have extracted index information >from our web pages and the infringement is therefore on what we have >laboriously produced. I feel that the rootsweb list owners will confirm that >we have served their needs and done so with the support and blessing of the >rootsweb leadership. To profess that you did not use the information that >Chris and I have compiled is beyond our belief. > ><< We think GenForum is a very resourceful and useful service. And we also >know that we need the support of RootsWeb to make GenForum what everyone >knows it can be. The RootsWeb people were very understanding and we will >come to an agreement regarding the copyright issues. We will keep you posted >on the outcome. >> > >Again, the copyright issue in this case is the extraction of information from >the Genealogy Resources on the Internet file, not rootsweb information. While >you address the surnames and variations for the rootsweb lists, you also have >numerous surnames and variations that are not part of the rootsweb inventory. >The compilation of surnames and variations on your web pages are obviously >what Chris and I have on our web pages ... and you had no legal right to copy >this information. > >>> the only All of the surnames has been taken from RootsWeb and is that >if any one wants to push the issue, then John and Chris's web site would be >infringing on a copyright of RootsWeb. Yes, the surnames used in the >GenForum project are very similar to the ones listed on John and Chris's >site, however, John and Chris >> > >While this paragraph was incomplete, your information is totally incorrect as >stated earlier. The information on our web pages is original ... and >carefully coordinated with the list owners. You have extracted this >information from our web pages in violation of copyright restrictions and >Chris and I respectfully request that you remove your web pages. > >John Fuller >[email protected] > >Sat, 19 Jul 1997 06:25:18 -0700 >I have before me hardcopies of ~maillist from RootsWeb and Cliff >Shaw's original pages from before this little mess began. > >Cliff's pages are essentially identical to ~maillist. The overlap >in both names and the equivalence groups of names is in excess of >97%, and contains hundreds of absolute dead giveaways like >"Homespun" and equally obscure names. > >I expect that Cliff's list is even more similar to either older >versions of ~maillist or John Fuller's list on AOL (which shares >substantional material with Steven Schlossman's ~maillist). > >Moreover, Cliff has told me in private e-mail that he used the >material. > >That's not accusation, insinuation, nasty remarks, or hate mail: >IT'S A SIMPLE IRREFUTABLE SKY-IS-BLUE FACT THAT CLIFF USED JOHN/ >STEVEN'S LISTS. > >I think that behavior at least qualifies as a "pretty sneaky act". > >Cheers, B. > > >-- >Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L >RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ >P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 [email protected] And this message from Brian Leverich this morning: > >As many of you are aware, GENFORUM.COM spammed all the RootsWeb lists >tonight. > >It killed our mail server, and judging by the e-mail we've received >it irritated a lot of folks. > >Here's what we've done at RootsWeb: > >We captured and killed as much of the spam as we could, and I'm >trying to bring the mail server back on line. > >I've written to Cliff Shaw to tell him we'll be sending him a bill >for damages after we clean up the wreckage, and we expect him to pay >promptly. > >I've also written to all the upstream providers of his Internet >connection, asking them to share a personal growth opportunity with >him. > >What a sleaze. *sigh* -B > Sorry this is so long. If any of you have questions, please email me privately. Dana Listowner -- Dana Whisonant-Schulter http://www.angelfire.com/biz/kryptkeeper/

great site guys!!!!!! hi my name is greg tucker william jr who married mary robinson is my g-g-g-g-g-grandfather was just talking to my cousin this evening about the dillons i have lots of info from mccager to present berk is my g-grandfather have much info on his children would love to share with anyone interested please email [email protected] thanx again greg

An online genealogy forum has been setup specifically for the Dillon family. It can be found at the following address: http://www.genforum.com/dillon It has been setup for you to post your family information. This is a one-time message, we're sorry for any inconvenience. Thanks GenForum Staff

FYI ---- From: Roy and Marcie VanDeren <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, July 27, 1997 9:19 PM Subject: [TNROOTS] BEALS/DILLONS: Greene Co, TN c1800-1815+ >I am searching for Jacob Beals and his wife Rachel ?? in Greene Co., TN. >Their 1st child, Jonathan was b:1796 in Greene Co. In 1814, he married >Elizabeth Dillon also of Greene Co. As of right now, her parents are >unknown to me. So far she does not seem to belong to Peter Dillons >family in Greene Co. There is some discussion as to the where the Greene >Co. Beals came from. Someone has suggested York. Co. PA. Is there a >Beals researcher that knows if the Greene Co. families came from York >Co., PA? >C1828, Jonathan and Jacob Beals left Greene Co., TN and travelled to >Vermilion Co., IL (now a part of Coles Co.) Jonathan is buried near >Branson, MO and Elizabeth is buried in Iowa. >Thank you for any leads you can give me. >-- >Marcie Van Deren >Kalispell, MT >[email protected] > >----------------------------------------------- >To contact the list owner, use [email protected] > >For information on available lists, other list options, and other >generally useful information, visit >http://copper.ucs.indiana.edu/~stephenl/genealog.htm >

Searching for any info on N.J. Dillons. WALTER and DORA DILLON, imigrated to Elizabeth, N.J. 1860 from Donegare, Ireland, son SAMUEL DILLON m. ELIZA NOLAN m. 05/10/1854 in St Mary's in Elizabeth N.J. children of SAMUEL and ELIZA JOHN SAMUEL DILLON b. 09/11/1961 Elizabeth, n.j. EDWARD DILLON b. 09/22/1855 Elizabeth N.J. THOMAS DILLON b. 03/01/1857, Elizabeth, N.J.

From W.Virginia,Tn. Dillon's Report 10-4-96 Name Birth date Spouse Marriage date Marriage location Dillon, Amy Dillon, Charles Edward December 11, 1922 Altman, Louise May 31, 1945 Cabell W. Virginia Dillon, Charles Laverne March 03, 1946 Charlotte Dillon, Daniel Dillon, Destiny LeAnne June 26, 1995 Dillon, Dorthea Mae February 13, 1924 Dillon, Frances D. Dillon, Samuel Jr. Dillon, Frances D. Dillon, Henry Eleanor Dillon, James Dillon, Janice Marie November 29, 1945 Carpenter, Fount Crowell, Jr August 25, 1964 Rossville, Georgia Dillon, Jeffrey Scout March 11, 1967 Wisdom, Diane Renee July 04, 1991 Shelbyville, Tn Dillon, Jennie Dillon, Lenard Dillon, Mary Ann February 19, 1950 Jones, Jerry Dale April 25, 1993 Seward, Nebraska Dillon, Pauline July 31, 1947 Busbee, Robert Simpson May 09, 1964 Aiken, South Carolina Dillon, Pearlie May 28, 1898 Billups, Martha July 24, 1920 Cattlettsburg, Kentucky Dillon, Ralph November 24, 1925 Dillon, Regina Lynn July 29, 1968 Sender, Raymond John December 02, 1985 Shelbyville, Tn Dillon, Samuel Dillon, Samuel Jr. Dillon, Frances D. Dillon, Taylor October 1894 Dillon, Thomas Dillon, William Dillon, William Dillon, William Dillon, William Fountain Abt November 1834 Bailey, Sarah E. Dillon, William Fountain April 29, 1921 Hoelzer, Schotzel Jane March 25, 1960 California Dillon, William Lee April 21, 1943 Helton, Darlene Frances August 11, 1964 Huntsville, Alabama Dillon, William Lee, Jr May 29, 1965

Something has happened that you all need to be aware of. ( I realize there are other list owners on this list, so I apologize if you already know this information) Another site has been placed on the Net called "GENFORUM" by Cliff Shaw. GENFORUM is located at http://www.genforum.com/ Without permission he used the names and variations of the surnames from John Fuller and Christine Gaunt's web page at http://members.aol.com/johnf14246/internet.html John and Christine both have asked permission directly to me to place that information there. Both have diligently worked to provide us with a site that we could use effectively and easily to determine what list would suit our needs. They consistently cooperated with all the listowners on their endeavor and at any time we may ask them to remove the information if need be. Cliff Shaw had taken information that he himself has not found on his own and copied it to his website. This is copyright infringement, unethical and lazy. At no time was I contacted by GENFORUM nor Cliff to ask permission to use my material on his pages. Rootsweb has asked Cliff to remove his site but Cliff denies wrongdoing (the same surnames that are missing from John's site are missing from Cliff's -- go figure?) I have included the notes that were sent to ROOTS-L and to the listowners from Brian Leverich, co coordinator for ROOTSWEB and Cliff Shaw -- please keep in mind that Cliff's email address in the note is NOT valid -- it bounced as user unknown. *** I AM ASKING YOU ALL TO BOYCOTT THE GENFORUM. THERE IS A VERY STRONG POSSIBILITY THAT THE INFORMATION YOU POST WILL BE USED FOR PROFITABLE GAIN BY CLIFF SHAW/GENFORUM. SINCE HE HAS DONE IT ONCE, HE WILL DO IT AGAIN! CAN YOU STAND BY AND WATCH YOUR HARD EARNED RESEARCH BE PLAGIARIZED BY AN OUTSIDER????? *** I can not nor will not endorse a site that is a threat to the free genealogical resources on the Internet nor to the hardworking participants of any of my lists. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This is my response to the incident to parties involved -- I contacted Cliff directly at GENFORUM > To all involved: > > I am personally appalled that GENFORUM/Cliff Shaw could be so > insensitive to the other list owners. I did not know anything of the > site until this morning when I opened my mail -- so how can one say I > have been informed? > What in essence GENFORUM is doing is making a substitute for our > lists-- without our permission. I do NOT agree with what they are doing > in any way shape or form. While I do not have exclusive rights on the > surnames I am working, I can not knowingly allow another site to run > that tries to overturn what I do with the current participants of my > lists. Even had I been asked by the GENFORUM owner I would not have > agreed to it. The whole point behind the lists is to make it as easily > (and centrally located) as possible to contact others family > members/researchers. Not to spread the surname over the internet in > fifteen different locales (giving different people control of what > happens with the surname). > > The information that John Fuller has on his site was given freely by > MYSELF to him personally for exclusive use upon his website. This > information (surnames and variants) that lies on the GENFORUM pages > could NOT have been gleaned from anywhere but John Fuller's pages. > As for Steve Schlossman and Christine Gaunt, they asked if they could > reproduce my information on their pages also. It seems that some people > have forgotten common courtesies on the Net. And since Rootsweb now owns > the operations of the lists, the infringement is upon them as well as > myself. I request that my surnames and variants be taken off GENFORUM's > pages ASAP and I will not knowingly allow Cliff Shaw to participate in > any of my surname genealogy mailing lists for the privacy of my list > members. > As for the future of GENFORUM -- I ask that if Cliff Shaw chooses to > keep the GENFORUM operating that for each of the surnames that are used > - SINCE THEY ARE DERIVED FROM THE ROOTSWEB MAILING LISTS-- that the > following disclaimer be published on each page for my surnames -- > > *** This forum is in no way supported nor maintained by the "SURNAME" > mailing list located on ROOTSWEB nor its list owner ,<a > href="mailto:[email protected]">Dana Whisonant-Schulter</a> **** > > Thank you, > Dana Whisonant-Schulter > **the uninformed list owner for NOWLIN,DILLON,WILLOUGHBY and WHISNANT** > > -- > Dana Whisonant-Schulter > http://www.angelfire.com/biz/kryptkeeper/ Since this letter went out Cliff Shaw has removed the variations of the surnames from the webpages and placed a very inadequate disclaimer to the pages --- however he has kept the variations in the search engine. This is NOT good enough. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This is the correspondence between ROOTSWEB and Cliff From: Brian Leverich <[email protected]> Resent-Message-ID: <"Q8_PvD.A.ry.TDWzz"@bl-14.rootsweb.com> As many of you may know by now, Cliff Shaw has set up a new Website at: http://www.genforum.com/ That Website directly uses a selection of surnames and name equivalences that were developed by the listowner community, and which have been organized and published by John Fuller, Christine Gaunt, and Steven Schlossman. RootsWeb has strongly, consistently, and unambiguously objected to GenForum having used this material without permission from the listowners and John, Christine, and Steve. We're also terribly unhappy that our position has been publicly misrepresented by Cliff Shaw of GenForum. In case there are folks who haven't seen this already, Cliff's earlier post and RootsWeb's response are attached below. -B ------- Forwarded Message To: "Cliff Shaw" <[email protected]> cc: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], "Dr. Brian Leverich" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: GenForum responds to Website/Copyright Infringement (possibly) In-reply-to: Your message of Wed, 16 Jul 1997 16:22:02 EDT. <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 15:11:37 -0700 From: Brian Leverich <[email protected]> - -- Your message was: (from ""Cliff Shaw"") > GenForum Response To The Following: > > GenForum is fully aware of Genealogy Resources of the Internet at > http://users.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html > and in no way does our content, graphics, or format resemble John and > Chris's site. If it is the surnames that are similar and that you think we > have copied from them, then you need to get your information straight. > John and Chris have taken the list of mailing lists from RootsWeb, and > republished them on their own site. John and Chris could be liable for > republishing RootsWeb's list of mailing lists. > Now in response to whether we have infringed on RootsWeb: > The RootsWeb people are fully aware of GenForum and we have been talking to > them, and will resolve the issue shortly. > > We think GenForum is a very resourceful and useful service. And we also > know that we need the support of RootsWeb to make GenForum what everyone > knows it can be. The RootsWeb people were very understanding and we will > come to an agreement regarding the copyright issues. We will keep you > posted on the outcome. > > the only All of the surnames has been taken from RootsWeb and is that if > any one wants to push the issue, then John and Chris's web site would be > infringing on a copyright of RootsWeb. Yes, the surnames used in the > GenForum project are very similar to the ones listed on John and Chris's > site, however, John and Chris <sic: the letter ends like that, with quoted material following> ------------------ In point of fact, RootsWeb has asked you to remove from your site all material derived from material present on / copyrighted by RootsWeb. (We have also asked you to refrain from gathering further material from RootsWeb or using the mailing lists we host or other RootsWeb facilities for any purpose.) While RootsWeb always looks for middle ground, in this particular case we really have no wiggle room. The hundreds of listowners have, through their research, developed the lists of name variants which make sense to group together. John Fuller, Christine Gaunt, and Steve Schlossman have prepared and organized the lists of lists. RootsWeb *can't* give you permission to use material generated by so many other people. RootsWeb's advice is that you independently generate your material by choosing the 1,000 or 2,000 most popular names from Census data or some other source, finding name groupings from any of the dozens of major genealogical works that are now out of copyright, and then adding names as you receive specific requests from your users. That's the surest way we know for you to avoid causing hard feelings elsewhere in the community. We wish you all the success in the world with GenForum, but we do ask that generate your material through your own efforts. -B - -- Dr. Brian Leverich Co-moderator, soc.genealogy.methods/GENMTD-L RootsWeb Genealogical Data Cooperative http://www.rootsweb.com/ P.O. Box 6798, Frazier Park, CA 93222-6798 [email protected] ------- End of Forwarded Message I realize this is probably the longest note you have ever gotten from me, but this is something that every one of you need to be aware of. You material, even if posted in innocence, maybe not be safe from plagiarism. Please boycott the GENFORUM site. Thanks and comments are welcome, Dana Your Listowner -- Dana Whisonant-Schulter http://www.angelfire.com/biz/kryptkeeper/

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