Good Morning - I am hoping someone doing the BOW tree is on this list I am trying to connect to JAMES BOW born in or around 1851 Berry Pomeroy - but he says in the 1901 and 1911 census in Southwark London that he was born in Torquay, Devon. The only James BOW I could find was this James Henry BOW son of Thomas BOW and Ann CUMMING - I took a look at the Family trees on Ancestry and none of them have this James Married some do not have it on their trees at all My James and his wife Mary born in 1850 St James London were in the 1901 census - can find no marriage entry for them. James is in the 1861 census with his family then missing until 1891 where he appear to be in London with a wife Mary. He is widowed in 1911 living in Walworth Southwark, with him is his daughter Florence [nee BOW] SHEPHERD and her children. Florence eventually re marries Albert GOULD but that is not what I am searching for IS this the correct James ? was his real name James Henry BOW is Torquay near enough to Berry Pomeroy to say he was born there? What happened to him between 1861 and 1881? A Big ask I know but maybe something will click to a list member PS I did work on the premise that he was James BOW born in Chetnole Dorset but I now know this is not him Thank you in anticipation Jill -- Jill [ARNOLD] MORLEY O.P.C. [Genealogy] for the village- Winterbourne Kingston in Dorset, England http://www.opcdorset.org Project - Street Names of the Copper Coast – project Project- Port Adelaide Notes and Pictures of Past People

Hi Jill, Could be them 1861 Census Thomas Bow 36 Totnes, Totnes Ann Bow 30 Totnes, Totnes James Henry Bow 7 Totnes, Totnes Mary Grace Bow 4 Totnes, Totnes Sarah Ann Bow 1 Totnes, Totnes 1871 Census Thomas Bow 46 Totnes, Totnes Ann Bow 39 Totnes, Totnes Mary G Bow 14 Totnes, Totnes Married Charles Janes March 1881 William T Bow 9 Totnes, Totnes Possible for James James Bow 20 Jersey 1881 Census Thomas BOW 56 Totnes, Totnes Ann BOW 49 Totnes, Totnes William T BOW 19 Totnes, Totnes 1891 Census Thomas BOW 66 Totnes, Totnes Ann BOW 60 Totnes, Totnes 1901 Census Ann Bow 69 Devon Harbertonford Devon Totnes Hope it Helps Steve Dinham

I have a convoluted theory which means that your James BOW was actually James Beazley HOLMAN but I could be wrong. My reasoning goes like this On 1891 Census (St George the Martyr, Soutwark) your James Bow is shown as being born 1851 in Torquay and is a Bricklayers Labourer. Also on that census shows a son Arthur born 1874 in Westminster, London. On checking the 1881 Census for this Arthur I found in (St George the Martyr, Southwark) an Arthur Bow, son of William Bow and Jadwiga Bow (Who's age and place of Birth matches your Mary Bow). Also on that Census was a James B Holman born 1851 in Torquay and is a Bricklayers Labourer. I believe that William Bow died and James Holman became Head of Household and was going by the name Bow at least on the Censuses. I say this because could not find any Births to match for Florence, George or James as a Bow, but found a George and a James Holman Births which match the years given in 1891 and 1901 Census. Also on 1901 Census James Bow gives his occupation as Shoe Black Licensed. I have found Baptisms for a George Beazley Holman and a James Beazley Holman, Father given as James, Mother as Mary and occupation as Shoe Black. Unable to find a Jadwiga Bow on 1891/1901 Census but did find a death for Jadwiga Mary Bow aged 60 in 1910 - Southwark Vol 1d p 63. Also struggling to locate James B Holman on any Census after 1881 nor can i find a marriage or death for him but his Birth is registered in Newton Abbot District (which covers Torquay) in Q1 1851. Nor could i seem to find a marrige for Florence (Bow/Holman) to unknown Shepherd. Without getting her Death Certificate and finding out who the informant was and what the Address was and/or Birth Certificates for George Holman or James Holman, cannot say for certain my theory is correct. Hope this helps rather than hinders. Tim Treeby DFHS 13926 On 30/11/2013 21:40, Jill wrote: > Good Morning - I am hoping someone doing the BOW tree is on this list > I am trying to connect to JAMES BOW born in or around 1851 Berry Pomeroy - but he says in the 1901 and 1911 census in Southwark London that he was born in Torquay, Devon. > The only James BOW I could find was this James Henry BOW son of Thomas BOW and Ann CUMMING - > I took a look at the Family trees on Ancestry and none of them have this James Married some do not have it on their trees at all > My James and his wife Mary born in 1850 St James London were in the 1901 census - can find no marriage entry for them. > James is in the 1861 census with his family then missing until 1891 where he appear to be in London with a wife Mary. > He is widowed in 1911 living in Walworth Southwark, with him is his daughter Florence [nee BOW] SHEPHERD and her children. Florence eventually re marries Albert GOULD but that is not what I am searching for > > IS this the correct James ? > was his real name James Henry BOW is Torquay near enough to Berry Pomeroy to say he was born there? > What happened to him between 1861 and 1881? > > A Big ask I know but maybe something will click to a list member > > PS I did work on the premise that he was James BOW born in Chetnole Dorset but I now know this is not him > > Thank you in anticipation > Jill > on: 2014.0.4259 / Virus Database: 3629/6880 - Release Date: 11/30/13