Elizabeth/Joy, After some reflection and further research I realize I have jumped too quickly to conclusions on Richard Page. I have not had time to search the registers for other possibilities for Ann Saunders, etc. For now, I am withdrawing my assumption that Richard Page belongs to the same Ann Saunders that is married to Philip Saunders. But, Elizabeth to answer your curiosity, here is the information I shared with Joy: Philip Sanders m. Ann Lang May 12, 1761 in Plymstock (familysearch.com film #004635185) Banns "England, Devon, Parish Registers, 1538-1912," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-14546-633-72?cc=1804330&wc=MMBD-PFS:515723165 : accessed 28 Nov 2013), 004635174 > image 22 of 101. Marriage "England, Devon, Parish Registers, 1538-1912," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-14546-6503-24?cc=1804330&wc=MMBD-PF6:n1846847921 : accessed 25 Nov 2013), 004635185 > image 45 of 130. Children born in Brixton (I do not have image references for these, they were given to me by Bev) Mary Lang, D. of Philip Saunders, b. Mar 16, 1764 Mary, D. of Philip Saunders, b. Jun 6, 1766 Philip, S. of Philip Saunders, b. Nov 5, 1769 William, S. of Philip Saunders, b. May21, 1771 Children born after moving back to Plymstock (familysearch.com film #004635185) Richard Page, Base S. of Ann Saunders and ? Apr 18, 1774 (img 82) Ann, D of Philip and Ann Saunders, b. Feb 10, 1775 (img 84) Henry, S. of Philip and Ann Saunders, b. July 6, 1778 (img 90) Sarah, D. of Philip and Ann Saunders, b. Nov. 16, 1781 (img 98) Mary Lang Saunders, the first daughter born in Brixton, was only ~10 when the family moved back to Plymstock, and she later married William Williams in Plymstock on Dec 28, 1786 (img 116) There is only 9 months between the birth of Richard Page and Ann, which I agree is highly unlikely -- but also not impossible. Joy, with her brilliant research, has chased down some other information on Richard Page, suggesting that he may have used another surname, Derricott. It's a mystery, to be sure. There are multiple death records for Ann Saunders in the Plymstock registry (one of which I believe is Philip's wife, and two others could well be their daughter and the daughter of John Saunders), but I have not yet had time to explore whether there were other Ann Saunders' in Plymstock at the time that were unwed and of child bearing age. Though there are quite a few Saunders in the whole of Devon, the percentage of Saunders' in the small rural registries I'm dealing with is quite low. My line (as far as I have traced it) was concentrated in the Yealmpton, Plymstock, and Brixton registries for at least 3 generations. It shouldn't be hard to find any other Ann's in Plymstock that could have fit the bill. Thanks for helping to shed light on this. Sincerely, Blaine On Thursday, December 5, 2013 4:42 AM, elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi, you don`t say where you " came across " this information . Sanders/Saunders is a most populous Devon name and perhaps this is another Saunders ? it seems unlikely that a family would choose one child out of 8 , to highlight as being illegitimate . . I would try find out more before deciding that Ann the wife of Philip had an " affair " . And follow up Joy`s lead with the 1813 marriage of Richard Page Saunders .