Hi Elizabeth,   I did some further investigating and came across another puzzle (and another surname) associated with Richard.  When he married in 1813 he was a widower resident at Brixton and I looked to see if there were any other baptisms relating to Page Saunders and I found two earlier baptisms at Brixton (Harriet Page Saunders 1802 and Jane Page Saunders 1804).  Here the plot thickens because the original entry shows that on Harriet's baptism the original surname is Dericott and that was scored through and Saunders inserted.  The mother was Sarah Petherne.   I couldn't find a marriage of Richard Page Saunders to Sarah Petherne BUT when I searched for a Sarah Petherne marriage I found a marriage to Richard Page Derricott at Modbury in 1800.   Can anyone find a marriage of  Ann Saunders to a Derricott/Darracott etc?  One possible explanation is that Richard's mother married a Derricott and he was raised using that surname (which tends to imply that he isn't the son of the Ann Saunders married to Philip Saunders).  Or, was he farmed out to a family called Derricott and not raised by his mother?  Or was his birth father a Derricott?  I doubt if we will ever know unless there is a Saunders/Dericott marriage or a descendant has a story passed down through the family.   Joy  ________________________________ From: elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> To: Blaine Sanders <utvairs@yahoo.com>; devon@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 5 December 2013, 11:42 Subject: [DEV] Baptized as "Base" son/daughter                 Hi,  you don`t say where you " came across " this information .  Sanders/Saunders is a most populous Devon name and perhaps this is another Saunders ?  it seems unlikely that a family would choose one child out of 8 , to highlight as being illegitimate . .  I would try find out more before deciding that Ann the wife of Philip had an " affair " . And follow up Joy`s lead with the 1813 marriage of Richard Page Saunders . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- 

Morning, Thomas SHEPHERD married Ann SAUNDERS 9 Apr 1798 [with Notes] at Cornwood Samuel SHERWILL married Ann SAUNDERS at Plymstock 15 Feb 1754 At Newton Ferrers William WEEKS married Ann SANDERS 19 Jan 1780 John PILLAGE and Anne SAUNDERS married at East Allington 19 May 1778 [with notes] At West Alvington Thomas WAKEHAM married Ann SAUNDERS 7 Dec 1769 [with notes] At South Brent John PETHYJOHNS married Ann SAUNDERS 8 Apr 1798 [with notes] In Plymouth Charles Church Elizabeth SAUNDERS d/o Rich: & Mary chr. 1 May 1796 Daniel chr 8 Jul 1798 Ann Chr 21 Oct 1798 Mary 9 Chr. Mar 1800 John 22 Chr. Sep 1802 Found no DORRACOTT/DORRICOTT marriage as suggested by Joy. Bev -------------------------------------------------- From: "Joy Langdon" <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 10:06 PM To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [DEV] Baptized as "Base" son/daughter > Hi Elizabeth, > > I did some further investigating and came across another puzzle (and > another surname) associated with Richard. When he married in 1813 he was > a widower resident at Brixton and I looked to see if there were any other > baptisms relating to Page Saunders and I found two earlier baptisms at > Brixton (Harriet Page Saunders 1802 and Jane Page Saunders 1804). Here > the plot thickens because the original entry shows that on Harriet's > baptism the original surname is Dericott and that was scored through and > Saunders inserted. The mother was Sarah Petherne. > > I couldn't find a marriage of Richard Page Saunders to Sarah Petherne BUT > when I searched for a Sarah Petherne marriage I found a marriage to > Richard Page Derricott at Modbury in 1800. > > Can anyone find a marriage of Ann Saunders to a Derricott/Darracott etc? > One possible explanation is that Richard's mother married a Derricott and > he was raised using that surname (which tends to imply that he isn't the > son of the Ann Saunders married to Philip Saunders). Or, was he farmed > out to a family called Derricott and not raised by his mother? Or was his > birth father a Derricott? I doubt if we will ever know unless there is a > Saunders/Dericott marriage or a descendant has a story passed down through > the family. > > Joy > > ________________________________ > From: elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> > To: Blaine Sanders <utvairs@yahoo.com>; devon@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, 5 December 2013, 11:42 > Subject: [DEV] Baptized as "Base" son/daughter > > > Hi, you don`t say where you " came across " this > information . Sanders/Saunders is a most populous Devon name and perhaps > this is another Saunders ? it seems unlikely that a family would choose > one > child out of 8 , to highlight as being illegitimate . . I would try find > out more before deciding that Ann the wife of Philip had an " affair " . > And follow up Joy`s lead with the 1813 marriage of Richard Page Saunders . > > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2247 / Virus Database: 3658/6392 - Release Date: 12/04/13 > >

Morning, here is what I can find re " Notes " for the following marriages. Bev John PILLAGE and Anne SAUNDERS married at East Allington 19 May 1778 [with notes] Notes are" Ann is from Harberton. > At West Alvington Thomas WAKEHAM married Ann SAUNDERS 7 Dec 1769 [with > notes] The Notes were " both otp and Thomas was a husbandman " >> At South Brent John PETHYJOHNS married Ann SAUNDERS 8 Apr 1798 [with >> notes] Notes are: Ann is a widow

Hi .. both Modbury and Plymstock have transcriptions of their bapt registers on genuki//devon and I see that Plymstock is really Plymouth , just 3 miles E by S of Plymouth and Modbury some 12 miles E by S . Richard Page ( transcribed as Paye) Saunders is there and perhaps if you contacted Plymstock there might be some further info on the register . Derricott is rare to a point of almost not existing , but Darracott is also fairly rare and mostly in the north of Devon around Braunton but with the constantly changing population of Plymouth anyone could have been there at any time . Saunders there are a plenty . Petherne is also luckily a rare name. If you familysearch it the most results are for Pethern without an e , and of course Cornwall , which handily is just along the road from Plymouth !! I think this may well remain a mystery !! life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy Langdon" <joy.langdon@btopenworld.com> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [DEV] Baptized as "Base" son/daughter Hi Elizabeth, I did some further investigating and came across another puzzle (and another surname) associated with Richard. When he married in 1813 he was a widower resident at Brixton and I looked to see if there were any other baptisms relating to Page Saunders and I found two earlier baptisms at Brixton (Harriet Page Saunders 1802 and Jane Page Saunders 1804). Here the plot thickens because the original entry shows that on Harriet's baptism the original surname is Dericott and that was scored through and Saunders inserted. The mother was Sarah Petherne. I couldn't find a marriage of Richard Page Saunders to Sarah Petherne BUT when I searched for a Sarah Petherne marriage I found a marriage to Richard Page Derricott at Modbury in 1800. Can anyone find a marriage of Ann Saunders to a Derricott/Darracott etc? One possible explanation is that Richard's mother married a Derricott and he was raised using that surname (which tends to imply that he isn't the son of the Ann Saunders married to Philip Saunders). Or, was he farmed out to a family called Derricott and not raised by his mother? Or was his birth father a Derricott? I doubt if we will ever know unless there is a Saunders/Dericott marriage or a descendant has a story passed down through the family. Joy ________________________________ From: elizabeth howard <elizgh@btinternet.com> To: Blaine Sanders <utvairs@yahoo.com>; devon@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, 5 December 2013, 11:42 Subject: [DEV] Baptized as "Base" son/daughter Hi, you don`t say where you " came across " this information . Sanders/Saunders is a most populous Devon name and perhaps this is another Saunders ? it seems unlikely that a family would choose one child out of 8 , to highlight as being illegitimate . . I would try find out more before deciding that Ann the wife of Philip had an " affair " . And follow up Joy`s lead with the 1813 marriage of Richard Page Saunders . life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message