An interesting article from The Telegraph: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/11483608/The-secret-history-of-Britain-is-written-in-our-genes.html Edna - icy Ottawa

Thanks so much. This is a fascinating article. Caren in Washington DC -----Original Message----- From: Edna Marlow [mailto:liverpud-49@rogers.com] Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 8:18 AM To: Devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] DNA ~~~ An interesting article from The Telegraph: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/11483608/The-secret-history-of-Brit ain-is-written-in-our-genes.html Edna - icy Ottawa _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Thank you for that link Edna. When my 93-year-old mother's DNA test results came back from AncestryDNA, the report linked her to Devon and Cornwall. This confirmed the known historical facts, i.e. that her all-female line ancestor was Ann TRELEAVEN (ca 1784-1855), and so mum's (and my) MTDNA forebear, who married Devon-born John LANG (ca 1789-1864) at Lanlivery parish church in Cornwall on St George's Day 1812. Added to this, my mum's father's line, ROBERTS, though from London (UK) since the Napoleonic Wars actually originated with a Cornish tinner named Thomas ROBERTS (ca 1786-1838) who travelled up to London due to the slump in his industry caused by the end of those hostilities. I was very interested then about the remark that the Cornish have more in common genetically with the English than with the Welsh, Scots, and Irish. Interestingly my niece, mum's female line granddaughter's results pointed to the Ulster region of Ireland and central Scotland as her emphasised place of origin. This is the area her father, my brother-in-law (who was adopted), has indicated that his biological father came from after WWI. Sounds like Dalriada is indicated. Very interesting to see. Richard in overcast West Vancouver, thinking about getting on with making the mince pies... (I managed to make the Christmas cake last Saturday since mum is now more or less blind, but still likes her goodies at tea time:)) On 15/12/2018, Edna Marlow <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > An interesting article from The Telegraph: > https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/11483608/The-secret-history-of-Britain-is-written-in-our-genes.html > Edna - icy Ottawa

Hi Edna, While this is an old article (2015) I believe it may be very relevant today. I especially love the maps. However, some of the images didn't load on my browser but I was able to copy/paste any of the images that did show up. I'm going to try on another browser, but suggest that anyone with ancestors from the British Isles needs to read this. I checked the internet, but it doesn't appear that Peter Donnelly has published anything more recent. Thanks for posting Edna. Nancy Frey OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 8:18 AM Edna Marlow <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > > > > > An interesting article from The Telegraph: > > > https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/11483608/The-secret-history-of-Britain-is-written-in-our-genes.html > > Edna - icy Ottawa > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

This is not the latest news for sure but gives us an idea of what happened and what is happening. Many people have not had their DNA done so this gives them an idea as to immigration. Merry Christmas and good Health for 2019. Hugs, Edna - icy Ottawa -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Frey Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2018 10:45 PM To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Re: DNA ~~~ Hi Edna, While this is an old article (2015) I believe it may be very relevant today. I especially love the maps. However, some of the images didn't load on my browser but I was able to copy/paste any of the images that did show up. I'm going to try on another browser, but suggest that anyone with ancestors from the British Isles needs to read this. I checked the internet, but it doesn't appear that Peter Donnelly has published anything more recent. Thanks for posting Edna. Nancy Frey OPC for Ansford & Castle Cary, Somerset On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 8:18 AM Edna Marlow <liverpud-49@rogers.com> wrote: > > > > > An interesting article from The Telegraph: > > > https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/11483608/The-secret-history-of-Britain-is-written-in-our-genes.html > > Edna - icy Ottawa > > _______________________________________________ > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS ( > http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

I had my ethnicity checked a few years ago, before Ancestry etc. decided it was a good source of revenue. When I queried the results I was given this answer: "In this test, your STR (Short Tandem Repeat loci in DNA) profile was compared with DNA profiles generated from 5,000 individuals from a number of geographic regions within Europe representing different populations. Using a formula developed to ascertain the population your profile most closely matches, a list was generated that shows range of population fits from most likely to least likely". In essence, where I am most likely to meet a person with the same(ish) STR. Current thinking is that humans emerged from modern Somalia/Ethiopia and spread out across the world. At the time Great Britain was attached to Europe by a land bridge as was Ireland to Great Britain. This is how the original settlers arrived. When the land bridge washed away, new DNA was introduced by traders and invaders. Celts came through Switzerland to Brittany, Wales, Ireland and Scotland probably via Spain, Anglo-Saxons from north Germany to South East England and Norsemen/Vikings from Scandinavia to Ireland, Scotland and Northumbria.. The Romans are a bit of an unknown quantity. As legions were recruited from across the Empire which included North Africa and what is now Western Europe. The last major invaders were the Normans who themselves were "Norsemen" with the Nordic STR. After this the DNA pool remained fairly static until the 1950s. In between there were two major vents that impacted the distribution of DNA. The first was the Black Death which arrived in Britain around 1345. The population fell to somewhere between 1 and 2 million and from this point onwards almost the whole population has DNA in common. The second was the Industrial revolution which moved the population from rural areas to, in particular, the new industrial areas of the North-East and North-West. It's no surprise that were have a little bit of DNA from everywhere. It's worth remembering that DNA testing, just like fingerprints, requires two or more sources to compare. For ethnicity one source is our own DNA, the other is a sample from places across the world. The analysis just counts the number of "hits", Google style and ranks them. This is completely different from comparing two individuals to confirm if they are related. Ethnicity tests really only lists the places where you can walk into a pub and there is a small chance that you and one of the other customers have a small chance of having the same strand of DNA. Cheers Paul -----Original Message----- From: Edna Marlow [mailto:liverpud-49@rogers.com] Sent: 15 December 2018 13:18 To: Devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] DNA ~~~ An interesting article from The Telegraph: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/11483608/The-secret-history-of-Britain-is-written-in-our-genes.html Edna - icy Ottawa _______________________________________________ ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/ and Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/devon@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community