Hi, just to add my two ignorant pennyworth ....to a great extent all "pirates" were called Turks or the Sallymen. This doesn`t mean in my opinion that they were pirates as in Johnny Depp or from Turkey or from Sale in Morocco . As a child my grandmother threatened me with the Sallymen if I strayed out of the garden, we lived not far from the sea on the south coast. And arabic lettering has been found on artefacts from a arab dhow type ship just off Sidmouth So these were ocean going ships , and Portugal like Ireland like Morocco were well within their strike range. See Linda Colley`s wonderful book Captives. And don`t forget the at Weymouth too was a port for ocean going ships, the sadly misnamed Happy Return took some of the Monmouth rebels to Barbados from Weymouth in 1685/8. I have now discovered a Vanstone website. just by chance.........try googling Vanstone web. And they seem to have found the name from the 15th C and perhaps intitially not Van but Fanston , but Devon and Cornwall for sure. life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "David L. Langenberg" <gallienus@mac.com> To: <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 03, 2014 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [DEV] Devon petition re Pirate activity - Newfoundland fishery > Gion and Ed, > > This is quite interesting to me. I believe I started this thread with a > speculation about Devon being the place of origin of Greenfield LARRABEE, > and it has turned into a more general discussion about transatlantic > shipping in the 17th century. I am now exploring some documents relating > to mid-17th century shipping from Bristol (after someone pointed out that > Bristol or ports on the North Devon coast were more likely than south > coast cities like Plymouth and Falmouth to be involved in transatlantic > commerce) and I have found a reference to "Turkish pirates" off the coast > of Portugal. That rather surprised me, because I was under the mistaken > impression that the Turks had stayed within the Mediterranean Sea. > > I want very much to take a look at the site you mentioned to see his > methodology and his results. > > I haven't quite synthesized the Bristol documents yet, but I believe the > master of the 1647 ship from Barbados that ran into a spot of trouble in > Connecticut, where Greenfield LARRABEE is first mentioned, namely Steven > Reekes, is mentioned a couple of years previously in a Bristol document. > At that time he was master of another ship engaged in the Barbados trade > from Bristol. > > David Langenberg > Newark, Delaware, USA > > On Feb 3, 2014, at 10:03 AM, edbar wrote: > >> Hi Gion >> Here is a URL to a petition (on a Newfoundland genealogy website) about >> "Turkish Pirates" activity. It was signed by about 1000 people from Devon >> who were probably somehow active in the Newfoundland fishery c. 1642. It >> seems to have been circulated and signed before they left Devon for the >> fishing season. It appears that the submitter, Thomas Cole, has done some >> research to identify where in Devon these people came from. >> >> http://ngb.chebucto.org/Cole-Documents/dartmouth-harbour-gathering-1642.shtml >> >> Regards >> Ed Barbour >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Gion Tobac >> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2014 12:05 AM >> To: devon@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [DEV] Greenfield LARRABEE >> >> Staplehill >> I would consider Staplehill's ship as a priority study; it will perhaps >> suggest Devon as Larrabee's roots. It is well known that Aldred (not >> Alfred) >> Staplehill was involved in the Newfoundland trade out of Dartmouth by >> 1641/42 and perhaps long before that date. In 1641 I am not certain if >> this >> is Aldred Sr or Jr and it is just a jaunt down the coast from >> Newfoundland >> to Barbados or to New England. Aldred Sr seems to have been born in 1580 >> at >> Exeter, son of Gilbert, and Aldred Jr was born in Dartmouth. Alexander >> Staplehill, Sr and Jr were also involved in Newfoundland adventures c1642 >> likewise Gilbert Jr., 2 named John, 2 named Thomas all out of Dartmouth. >> They were no strangers in the New World. in St Saviour's Church, at >> Dartmouth, there is a brass effigy of Gilbart Staplehiil, once Mayor of >> the >> town. 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