Unfortunately, if your ancestor left Devon before 1841 there will be no census to check so trying to identify him is going to be very difficult. Not every Devon parish has transcriptions online so there may be several candidates that remain hidden to view. You can try finding supporting evidence that the one in Roborough by Torrington is the right one. There is an OPC (Online Parish Clerk) for Roborough - ask them to check for a burial to ensure that this Henry's absence from later English censuses is not due to death rather than emigration. http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Roborough/#Genealogy What happened to the other children of William and Agnes? If they don't appear in the burial records and aren't in later English censuses, are there any people of the same names and ages, born England, living in Genesee county? Are there any visitors with your family in the censuses or names of marriage witnesses who might be family? Did Henry name any of his children William or Agnes - families often named the eldest son and daughter after their paternal grandparents Regards, Joy ________________________________ From: Ronald E. Schultz <leutsch@sonic.net> To: devon@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014, 0:36 Subject: Re: [DEV] Henry Thomas Mike: Thank you for the hint, however my Henry I think was already in the New York. He had to marry and his first child was born in New York in Jan 1837. Henry and his wife Catherine(born in NY) lived the rest of there life in Genesee county, New York. I can easily find the family in the US census and the NEw York census. From the 1850 census, Genesee county seemed to have a number of people born in England. Ron >> ------------------------------- >> >
I'm the OPC for Roborough and I have already tried to trace this Henry Thomas further - I don't have burials pre 1813 unfortunately, and I can see no evidence of Henry THOMAS marrying or in later censuses. However, this is certainly not proof that this is the Henry that moved to the USA. William & Agnes did have 3 more children baptised after 1812 - 12 Feb 1815 Mary 13 Sep 1818 James 18 Feb 1821 Ann William & Agnes were still alive in 1841: THOMAS, William M 60 1781 Devon THOMAS, Agness F 65 1776 Devon JOSLIN, John M 60 1781 Devon Piece: 221 Book/Folio: 9 Page: 13 Address: Wood Cottages, Great, Roborough Regards, Deborah OBrien Devon OPC Co-ordinator DFHS Member 11261 http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/OPCproject.html Online Parish Clerk for Meavy, Newton Ferrers, Roborough by Torrington, Sheepstor, Walkhampton http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dob7/index.html Researching SQUANCE, LILLICRAP, SURTEES, DANKESTER & YATES -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Joy Langdon Sent: 25 January 2014 10:43 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Henry Thomas Unfortunately, if your ancestor left Devon before 1841 there will be no census to check so trying to identify him is going to be very difficult. Not every Devon parish has transcriptions online so there may be several candidates that remain hidden to view. You can try finding supporting evidence that the one in Roborough by Torrington is the right one. There is an OPC (Online Parish Clerk) for Roborough - ask them to check for a burial to ensure that this Henry's absence from later English censuses is not due to death rather than emigration. http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Roborough/#Genealogy What happened to the other children of William and Agnes? If they don't appear in the burial records and aren't in later English censuses, are there any people of the same names and ages, born England, living in Genesee county? Are there any visitors with your family in the censuses or names of marriage witnesses who might be family? Did Henry name any of his children William or Agnes - families often named the eldest son and daughter after their paternal grandparents Regards, Joy ________________________________ From: Ronald E. Schultz <leutsch@sonic.net> To: devon@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014, 0:36 Subject: Re: [DEV] Henry Thomas Mike: Thank you for the hint, however my Henry I think was already in the New York. He had to marry and his first child was born in New York in Jan 1837. Henry and his wife Catherine(born in NY) lived the rest of there life in Genesee county, New York. I can easily find the family in the US census and the NEw York census. From the 1850 census, Genesee county seemed to have a number of people born in England. Ron >> ------------------------------- >> > ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Deborah: How can you tell if the three children are also children of William and Agnes. I can find them on Ancestry, but they do not state a mother. You have Ann for 1818 and there is an Ann for 1818 with a Mother of Agnes Thomas living with her in later census. Can you please help me with these three names. Ronald Schultz Occidental, Ca On 2014-01-25 04:01, Deborah O'Brien wrote: > I'm the OPC for Roborough and I have already tried to trace this Henry > Thomas further - I don't have burials pre 1813 unfortunately, and I can > see > no evidence of Henry THOMAS marrying or in later censuses. However, > this is > certainly not proof that this is the Henry that moved to the USA. > William & > Agnes did have 3 more children baptised after 1812 - > 12 Feb 1815 Mary > 13 Sep 1818 James > 18 Feb 1821 Ann > > William & Agnes were still alive in 1841: > > THOMAS, William M 60 1781 Devon > THOMAS, Agness F 65 1776 Devon > JOSLIN, John M 60 1781 Devon > Piece: 221 Book/Folio: 9 Page: 13 Address: Wood Cottages, Great, > Roborough > > > > Regards, > > Deborah O’Brien > Devon OPC Co-ordinator > DFHS Member 11261 > http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/OPCproject.html > Online Parish Clerk for Meavy, Newton Ferrers, Roborough by Torrington, > Sheepstor, Walkhampton > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dob7/index.html > Researching SQUANCE, LILLICRAP, SURTEES, DANKESTER & YATES > > -----Original Message----- > From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf Of Joy Langdon > Sent: 25 January 2014 10:43 > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DEV] Henry Thomas > > Unfortunately, if your ancestor left Devon before 1841 there will be no > census to check so trying to identify him is going to be very > difficult. Not every Devon parish has transcriptions online so there > may be > several candidates that remain hidden to view. > > You can try finding supporting evidence that the one in Roborough by > Torrington is the right one. There is an OPC (Online Parish Clerk) for > Roborough - ask them to check for a burial to ensure that this Henry's > absence from later English censuses is not due to death rather > than emigration. > http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Roborough/#Genealogy > > What happened to the other children of William and Agnes? If they > don't > appear in the burial records and aren't in later English censuses, are > there > any people of the same names and ages, born England, living in Genesee > county? Are there any visitors with your family in the censuses or > names of > marriage witnesses who might be family? Did Henry name any of his > children > William or Agnes - families often named the eldest son and daughter > after > their paternal grandparents > > Regards, > > Joy > > > ________________________________ > From: Ronald E. Schultz <leutsch@sonic.net> > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014, 0:36 > Subject: Re: [DEV] Henry Thomas > > > Mike: Thank you for the hint, however my Henry I think was already in > the New York. He had to marry and his first child was born in New York > in Jan 1837. Henry and his wife Catherine(born in NY) lived the rest > of > there life in Genesee county, New York. I can easily find the family > in > the US census and the NEw York census. From the 1850 census, Genesee > county seemed to have a number of people born in England. Ron > > > > > >>> ------------------------------- >>> >> > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Ronald E. Schultz 3970 Joy Road Occidental, CA 95465 leutsch@sonic.net
I have the transcribed parish registers. They read: 12.02.1815 THOMAS Mary d/o William & Agnes Labourer Roborough 13.09.1818 THOMAS James s/o William & Agnes Labourer Roborough 18.02.1821 THOMAS Ann d/o William & Agnes Husbandman Roborough You can also check these at www.findmypast.com and pay to view the transcriptions. Regards, Deborah O’Brien Devon OPC Co-ordinator DFHS Member 11261 http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/OPCproject.html Online Parish Clerk for Meavy, Newton Ferrers, Roborough by Torrington, Sheepstor, Walkhampton http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dob7/index.html Researching SQUANCE, LILLICRAP, SURTEES, DANKESTER & YATES -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ronald E. Schultz Sent: 01 February 2014 19:53 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DEV] Henry Thomas Deborah: How can you tell if the three children are also children of William and Agnes. I can find them on Ancestry, but they do not state a mother. You have Ann for 1818 and there is an Ann for 1818 with a Mother of Agnes Thomas living with her in later census. Can you please help me with these three names. Ronald Schultz Occidental, Ca On 2014-01-25 04:01, Deborah O'Brien wrote: > I'm the OPC for Roborough and I have already tried to trace this Henry > Thomas further - I don't have burials pre 1813 unfortunately, and I > can see no evidence of Henry THOMAS marrying or in later censuses. > However, this is certainly not proof that this is the Henry that moved > to the USA. > William & > Agnes did have 3 more children baptised after 1812 - > 12 Feb 1815 Mary > 13 Sep 1818 James > 18 Feb 1821 Ann > > William & Agnes were still alive in 1841: > > THOMAS, William M 60 1781 Devon > THOMAS, Agness F 65 1776 Devon > JOSLIN, John M 60 1781 Devon > Piece: 221 Book/Folio: 9 Page: 13 Address: Wood Cottages, Great, > Roborough > > > > Regards, > > Deborah O’Brien > Devon OPC Co-ordinator > DFHS Member 11261 > http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/OPCproject.html > Online Parish Clerk for Meavy, Newton Ferrers, Roborough by > Torrington, Sheepstor, Walkhampton > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dob7/index.html > Researching SQUANCE, LILLICRAP, SURTEES, DANKESTER & YATES > > -----Original Message----- > From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Joy Langdon > Sent: 25 January 2014 10:43 > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DEV] Henry Thomas > > Unfortunately, if your ancestor left Devon before 1841 there will be > no census to check so trying to identify him is going to be very > difficult. Not every Devon parish has transcriptions online so there > may be several candidates that remain hidden to view. > > You can try finding supporting evidence that the one in Roborough by > Torrington is the right one. There is an OPC (Online Parish Clerk) > for Roborough - ask them to check for a burial to ensure that this > Henry's absence from later English censuses is not due to death rather > than emigration. > http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Roborough/#Genealogy > > What happened to the other children of William and Agnes? If they > don't appear in the burial records and aren't in later English > censuses, are there any people of the same names and ages, born > England, living in Genesee county? Are there any visitors with your > family in the censuses or names of marriage witnesses who might be > family? Did Henry name any of his children William or Agnes - > families often named the eldest son and daughter after their paternal > grandparents > > Regards, > > Joy > > > ________________________________ > From: Ronald E. Schultz <leutsch@sonic.net> > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014, 0:36 > Subject: Re: [DEV] Henry Thomas > > > Mike: Thank you for the hint, however my Henry I think was already in > the New York. He had to marry and his first child was born in New > York in Jan 1837. Henry and his wife Catherine(born in NY) lived the > rest of there life in Genesee county, New York. I can easily find the > family in the US census and the NEw York census. From the 1850 > census, Genesee county seemed to have a number of people born in > England. Ron > > > > > >>> ------------------------------- >>> >> > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( > http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( > http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Ronald E. Schultz 3970 Joy Road Occidental, CA 95465 leutsch@sonic.net ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Deborah, thank you for the very fast reply. Ron On 2014-02-01 15:15, Deborah O'Brien wrote: > I have the transcribed parish registers. They read: > 12.02.1815 THOMAS Mary d/o William & Agnes Labourer Roborough > 13.09.1818 THOMAS James s/o William & Agnes Labourer Roborough > 18.02.1821 THOMAS Ann d/o William & Agnes Husbandman Roborough > > You can also check these at www.findmypast.com and pay to view the > transcriptions. > > Regards, > > Deborah O’Brien > Devon OPC Co-ordinator > DFHS Member 11261 > http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/OPCproject.html > Online Parish Clerk for Meavy, Newton Ferrers, Roborough by > Torrington, Sheepstor, Walkhampton > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dob7/index.html > Researching SQUANCE, LILLICRAP, SURTEES, DANKESTER & YATES > > -----Original Message----- > From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Ronald E. Schultz > Sent: 01 February 2014 19:53 > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DEV] Henry Thomas > > Deborah: How can you tell if the three children are also children of > William and Agnes. I can find them on Ancestry, but they do not state > a mother. You have Ann for 1818 and there is an Ann for 1818 with a > Mother of Agnes Thomas living with her in later census. Can you > please help me with these three names. > > Ronald Schultz > Occidental, Ca > > On 2014-01-25 04:01, Deborah O'Brien wrote: >> I'm the OPC for Roborough and I have already tried to trace this Henry >> Thomas further - I don't have burials pre 1813 unfortunately, and I >> can see no evidence of Henry THOMAS marrying or in later censuses. >> However, this is certainly not proof that this is the Henry that moved >> to the USA. >> William & >> Agnes did have 3 more children baptised after 1812 - >> 12 Feb 1815 Mary >> 13 Sep 1818 James >> 18 Feb 1821 Ann >> >> William & Agnes were still alive in 1841: >> >> THOMAS, William M 60 1781 Devon >> THOMAS, Agness F 65 1776 Devon >> JOSLIN, John M 60 1781 Devon >> Piece: 221 Book/Folio: 9 Page: 13 Address: Wood Cottages, Great, >> Roborough >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Deborah O’Brien >> Devon OPC Co-ordinator >> DFHS Member 11261 >> http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/OPCproject.html >> Online Parish Clerk for Meavy, Newton Ferrers, Roborough by >> Torrington, Sheepstor, Walkhampton >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~dob7/index.html >> Researching SQUANCE, LILLICRAP, SURTEES, DANKESTER & YATES >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] >> On Behalf Of Joy Langdon >> Sent: 25 January 2014 10:43 >> To: devon@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [DEV] Henry Thomas >> >> Unfortunately, if your ancestor left Devon before 1841 there will be >> no census to check so trying to identify him is going to be very >> difficult. Not every Devon parish has transcriptions online so there >> may be several candidates that remain hidden to view. >> >> You can try finding supporting evidence that the one in Roborough by >> Torrington is the right one. There is an OPC (Online Parish Clerk) >> for Roborough - ask them to check for a burial to ensure that this >> Henry's absence from later English censuses is not due to death rather >> than emigration. >> http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Roborough/#Genealogy >> >> What happened to the other children of William and Agnes? If they >> don't appear in the burial records and aren't in later English >> censuses, are there any people of the same names and ages, born >> England, living in Genesee county? Are there any visitors with your >> family in the censuses or names of marriage witnesses who might be >> family? Did Henry name any of his children William or Agnes - >> families often named the eldest son and daughter after their paternal >> grandparents >> >> Regards, >> >> Joy >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Ronald E. Schultz <leutsch@sonic.net> >> To: devon@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2014, 0:36 >> Subject: Re: [DEV] Henry Thomas >> >> >> Mike: Thank you for the hint, however my Henry I think was already in >> the New York. He had to marry and his first child was born in New >> York in Jan 1837. Henry and his wife Catherine(born in NY) lived the >> rest of there life in Genesee county, New York. I can easily find the >> family in the US census and the NEw York census. From the 1850 >> census, Genesee county seemed to have a number of people born in >> England. Ron >> >> >> >> >> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( >> http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS >> (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( >> http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS >> (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Ronald E. Schultz > 3970 Joy Road > Occidental, CA 95465 > > leutsch@sonic.net > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( > http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS > (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Ronald E. 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