Hi Jean: Well said! Cheers Brian On 7 Jan 2014, at 19:47, Jean Harris wrote: > > HI all > >> From what I read in these two emails it seems that Ancestry has listed the Index Library volumes. These are INDEXES only and are NOT copies of the PCC Wills and Admins. > > These Index Library volumes are available in any major City or University library and we have them in our Toronto Reference Library. Some years ago I used these 11+ volumes to extract all of the Devonians I saw there and sent off the results to Brian Randell for GenukiDevon where they are to this day thus making them making them available to all. So why not go there first?? > > My explanatory note (also included @ GenukiDevon) will tell you where you can get copies and the source I used for my many preinternet years was our local Family History LDS Library. The LDS has filmed the actual PCC wills and by using these Index Library volumes I was able find the required register and folio number for some of my own people who had had the misfortune (or good luck for me as it turned out) to die outside of Devon and the jurisdiction of the Diocese of Exeter. From those LDS films I was able to get photocopies to take home to read in peace and quiet! > > This is where you will find all the Devonians listed in these Index Library volumes: > > PCC Wills > http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/DevonWills/index.html > > PCC Admins > http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/DevonAdministrations/index.html > > Incidentally, all of these Devonians are included in the Devon Wills Project for any names of your own people. Always remember too that you should check for variants in the spelling of their surnames as, in those olden times, names were often written as they sounded to the listener and not as we know the standard spellings of today. > > For the PCC wills from 1700-1749 I have not yet found an index but those of later years 1750 to (I think) 1800 were extracted by Anthony Camp of the Society of Genealogists, published many years ago and they too must also be available in City/University libraries. Due to our tremendous loss of old wills, the Estate Duty Office in London supplied copies of their EDO wills of later years to the Devon Record Office. > >> From all of this you can see that there are lots of places to check to find indexes of the old PCC Wills and Admins but the short cut for all of these published indexes and other places is the GenukiDevon Devon Wills Project which should be the very FIRST port of call for old Devon wills. There are all sorts of previously unknown sources having transcripts or even original wills that are being found by volunteers looking for them all over the place including the Internet and, as they are being found, they are included in this Devon Wills Project. > > Jean Harris in a VERY cold Toronto, Ontario > > > On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:41 PM, Michael J Hulme wrote: > >> Hello Tim >> >> Thank you for this information but looking on the Ancestry site my >> understanding is that they only have: >> >> Administrations in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, 1581-1619 and >> 1649-1660 >> >> Wills Proved in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury, 1383-1629, >> 1653-1660, 1671-1675 & 1686-1700. >> >> This leaves many gaps especially for Wills from 1700 to 1858. >> >> Please correct me if I have missed something here. >> >> The full set are of course available on The National Archives web site. >> >> Mike >> Shropshire, UK >> __________________________________________ >> >> On 07/01/2014 12:32, Tim Treeby (Genealogy) wrote: >>> Just in case no one has seen, Ancestry now has copies of PCC Wills, so >>> any one with an Ancestry sub should be able to see a copy of any PCC Will. >>> >>> Tim Treeby >> ------------------------------------------ >> The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon >> ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) >> and >> the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) >> List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- School of Computing Science, Newcastle University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU, UK EMAIL = Brian.Randell@ncl.ac.uk PHONE = +44 191 222 7923 FAX = +44 191 222 8232 URL = http://www.cs.ncl.ac.uk/people/brian.randell