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    1. Re: [DEV] Greenfield LARRABEE
    2. David L. Langenberg
    3. Jon, Thanks for your thoughts and suggestions regarding further research on Greenfield LARRABEE, his voyages to New England, and his possible origins in Devon. On Jan 29, 2014, at 5:27 AM, Jonathan Frayne wrote: > Hi > > If Greenfield Larrabee just appears > out of nowhere and he is a sailor I would suspect he could be a deserter > from the Royal Navy and has changed his name to protect himself. I believe > Britain owned Barbados at the time and maintained a flotilla of vessels > there. It seems strange he would change his name to something so distinctive. I'd change it to John Smith. :) As far as Barbados goes, yes, it was British and quite a few settlers spent some time there before coming to New England and elsewhere in the American colonies. I believe a number of parish registers from Barbados have been published and are fairly accessible. > > I can help with the Phoenix (or Phenix as it seems to be universally > spelled). I have looked it up in both the 'Maritime History of Devon' and > also 'Early Stuart Mariners and Shipping 1619-35'. In the former mention is > made of two such named vessels and in the latter there are four mentions. > All records refer to owners of shipping. The former states on p.134, "In > 1626 returns of ships and mariners were made to the vice-admiral of Devon. > Although incomplete, they provide useful information. . . The lists of 1626 > show that most shareholders were merchants, but there were a few > professional men, like Francis Facey, a lawyer, who was part-owner of the > Phoenix of Barnstaple, with Nicholas Delbridge, a merchant, and Mary > Jenning." This information is confirmed in Early Stuart Mariners p. 94 which > has a transcript of the survey and describes the Phenix (sic) as being of 50 > tons burden, carrying no ordnance but capable of carrying 6. This is a solid lead. I want to check the indexes to the multi-volume series of Connecticut Colonial Documents in my library and to see what other references there are to the Phenix during the 17th century. (Sorry, I shouldn't have projected a current spelling to the past.) > > The other reference in "The Maritime History of Devon" is to a Phoenix of > Dartmouth in 1588 being supplied to Drakes fleet to fight the Armada by Mr > Gawen Champernowne of Dartmouth and it is described as being of 70 tons. In > Early Stuart Mariners there is mention of two Phenix(s) of Dart (presumably > the river on which they were kept) both of 80 tons. One owned by Rawleigh > Gilbert esq and the other by George Roope. > > There is also mention in Early Stuart Mariners of a survey of shipping in > South Devon in 1619 and there is a Phenix of Dartmouth of 18 tuns (sic) 15 > ages (???) and no ordnance. Finally on p 103 there is a reference to an > Alfred Staplehill owning 8 shares in the Phenix value £1 4s 0d. As this was > also in 1619 I would assume it to be a part of the same survey and to be the > same ship. > > My view would be that a ship that went to fight the armada would be too old > (if it survived) to be sailing to Barbados and New England. I think the > Dartmouth vessel of 15 tons is far too small. I know they went across the > ocean in tiny vessels but 15 tons is the same as a small yacht and in any > event wouldn't have been commercially viable for trading, surely? That > leaves the other two vessels on the Dart and the Barnstaple vessel as > possibilities. I seem to recall reading somewhere that the profits on > shipping were enormous as were the risks. A ship would be expected to pay > for itself in less than 10 years, and less than 5 in some cases. Obviously > they were also vulnerable to weather and enemy (and piratical) action. It > meant that ships, and sailors for that matter, were regarded by the owners > as rather disposable and not expected to have long working lives. > > Early Stuart Mariners and Shipping has long lists of mariners and owners in > it, but no record of the master or the sailor mentioned I'm afraid. > > The references are: > Todd Gray, Early Stuart Mariners and Shipping, Devon and Cornwall Record > Society New series volume 33, 1990 > Michael Duffy (editor) et al, The New Maritime History of Devon, The > University of Exeter and Conway Maritime Press, 1992 I'll try to find a copies in my University library (the University of Delaware Library, where I was a librarian before I retired) and request on interlibrary loan if we doesn't have. I'm pretty sure that we don't have the Devon and Cornwall Record Society publications, at least as a set, and I have a feeling that we don't have the Duffy, either. Our holdings on Devon are rather light. Although I selected in British history, my budget for Britain was limited and I had to be quite selective. Thanks again for your insightful comments. David Langenberg Newark, Delaware, USA

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