Hi again, Paul, Thanks for answering again with more ideas. I was hoping that someone had a strategy idea that I hadn't considered, but it sounds like I may be at the end of the road. :-) I did look through the results on A2A which is how I first located the bastardy bonds. The examination of Ann Evans and the bastardy bond against John Kinsman for Ann's child both call Ann "of Hartland" and the examination says that the child is "likely to be born a Bastard, and to be chargeable to the said parish of Hartland" which does indeed indicate that Ann was legally settled there. They also state that Ann was a "singlewoman" which suggests she likely had right of settlement via her father, though if she had been born 'illegitimately' to Elizabeth Evans, perhaps it was through her mother? The parish must have cut it extremely close to the birth as pregnant Ann was examined on January 23rd and the bastardy bond states that the child was born on January 29th! The subsequent examination of "Ann Evans the younger" in 1804 also calls that Ann "of Hartland," and if my Ann is the same Ann baptized by Elizabeth Evans in 1779, she certainly could have given birth to both children. If these two births are both for a younger Ann Evans, then an elder Ann Evans seems to have given birth to at least three 'illegitimate' children, probably in Hartland as they were all baptized there: Grace (bap. 1778), Charles (bap. 1781), and Thomas (bap. 1784). The only removal order I have found so far regarding these families is for a couple that seem to be John Kinsman's brother and sister-in-law, who were removed to Clovelly in 1816 according to the A2A entry; that is one record for which I have yet to obtain a copy of the original. One of my relatives who descends from the Evans and Kinsman families has done autosomal DNA testing but unfortunately we have had no matches for our Evans/Kinsman branch yet. Thanks again for all your ideas! Liz Loveland Massachusetts, USA