Hi, on the Tithe Apportionment for Clayhidon, there are two Warrens , David and John, both freeholders , no Franks or Hitchcock. In the same apportionment there seem to be a collection of Franks in East Budleigh, Feniton, Littleham (Exmouth) Ottery St Mary , Upottery , Thorncombe and Woodbury both as freeholders and tenants. The Hitchcocks are more numerous and can be found in Hemyock, Honiton, Harpford, Littleham , South Molton, Thorncombe, Talaton, Uplyme, Upottery again as both freeholders and tenants. Clayhidon is just 4 miles from Wellington, Somerset. though in Devon. The 1711-1799 freeholders list shows a number of Franks, Frank, Franke, and the name change is illustrated particularly by Abraham who is Frank, Franke, and Franks. and is to be found in the Crediton and West Budleigh area . If you look at the National Archives/A2A site and just try John Frank , you will pick up Clayhidon`s apprentice orders, and you will find the combination of Warren , Hitchcock and Frank. but there is also a plethora of Somerset villages mentioned. Friends of Devon Archives tithe apportionment might also show Duns Green estate under Clayhidon. The first Franke who appears in the Freeholders lists for Clayhidon is John Franke , yeoman in 1762 , and the same year John Warren in Buckerell. And in 1771 in Clayhidon a Jacob Hitchcock as well as a Robert Warren, sergemaker, both freeholders . Robert Warren is in Churchstanton in 1783 , Jacob Hitchcock is still a yeoman in Clayhidon. By 1700 there are three Warrens in Churchstanton , Robert, William and David. So you have a choice of parishes where all three names have been found, and so three choices of places of burial of Robert Franks/Frank/Franke. On National Archives/A2A site the apprentice record of Charles to Robert Warren is shown as being part of the Clayhidon parish documents . The Tithe apportionment shows a Dunsgreen , an area of 83 acres, in the ownership and tenancy of Willliam Farrant. and also from the same source a Dunsgreen lane , both in the Clayhidon parish. life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Henriegel" <ruthhenriegel@msn.com> To: "DEVON@rootsweb.com" <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:51 AM Subject: [DEV] Charles Warren Franks bap 1745 Clayhidon > Charles Warren Franks was the illegitimate son of Joan Hitchcock presumed > widow of Robert Franks of Clayhidon although no record of Robert's death > has been found. > > In 1757 Charles Warren Franks was apprenticed to Robert Warren for Duns > Green Estate (PO451). It is interesting to note that someone (? Robert > Warren) has put a line through Charles second name of Warren on the > indenture! After that event I cannot find any further record of Charles > Warren Franks or as Charles Franks. Nor can I find any reference to Duns > Green Estate. Does anyone on this list know in what parish the estate was > located? > > Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. > > Ruth Henriegel > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Is it possible that Charles emigrated, there a large number of Charles Franks in the US including 196 Warren Franks, or perhaps joined the forces, army or navy. These are common reasons someone disappears. Paul -----Original Message----- From: devon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:devon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of elizabeth howard Sent: 30 January 2014 16:07 To: devon@rootsweb.com Subject: [DEV] Charles Warren Franks bap 1745 Clayhidon Hi, on the Tithe Apportionment for Clayhidon, there are two Warrens , David and John, both freeholders , no Franks or Hitchcock. In the same apportionment there seem to be a collection of Franks in East Budleigh, Feniton, Littleham (Exmouth) Ottery St Mary , Upottery , Thorncombe and Woodbury both as freeholders and tenants. The Hitchcocks are more numerous and can be found in Hemyock, Honiton, Harpford, Littleham , South Molton, Thorncombe, Talaton, Uplyme, Upottery again as both freeholders and tenants. Clayhidon is just 4 miles from Wellington, Somerset. though in Devon. The 1711-1799 freeholders list shows a number of Franks, Frank, Franke, and the name change is illustrated particularly by Abraham who is Frank, Franke, and Franks. and is to be found in the Crediton and West Budleigh area . If you look at the National Archives/A2A site and just try John Frank , you will pick up Clayhidon`s apprentice orders, and you will find the combination of Warren , Hitchcock and Frank. but there is also a plethora of Somerset villages mentioned. Friends of Devon Archives tithe apportionment might also show Duns Green estate under Clayhidon. The first Franke who appears in the Freeholders lists for Clayhidon is John Franke , yeoman in 1762 , and the same year John Warren in Buckerell. And in 1771 in Clayhidon a Jacob Hitchcock as well as a Robert Warren, sergemaker, both freeholders . Robert Warren is in Churchstanton in 1783 , Jacob Hitchcock is still a yeoman in Clayhidon. By 1700 there are three Warrens in Churchstanton , Robert, William and David. So you have a choice of parishes where all three names have been found, and so three choices of places of burial of Robert Franks/Frank/Franke. On National Archives/A2A site the apprentice record of Charles to Robert Warren is shown as being part of the Clayhidon parish documents . The Tithe apportionment shows a Dunsgreen , an area of 83 acres, in the ownership and tenancy of Willliam Farrant. and also from the same source a Dunsgreen lane , both in the Clayhidon parish. life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ruth Henriegel" <ruthhenriegel@msn.com> To: "DEVON@rootsweb.com" <devon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:51 AM Subject: [DEV] Charles Warren Franks bap 1745 Clayhidon > Charles Warren Franks was the illegitimate son of Joan Hitchcock presumed > widow of Robert Franks of Clayhidon although no record of Robert's death > has been found. > > In 1757 Charles Warren Franks was apprenticed to Robert Warren for Duns > Green Estate (PO451). It is interesting to note that someone (? Robert > Warren) has put a line through Charles second name of Warren on the > indenture! After that event I cannot find any further record of Charles > Warren Franks or as Charles Franks. Nor can I find any reference to Duns > Green Estate. Does anyone on this list know in what parish the estate was > located? > > Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. > > Ruth Henriegel > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------ The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) and the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to the replies from Elizabeth and Paul, I now have several lines of investigations and a widening area of search. I can add to the various name changes, my 5x great grandfather Charles Franks moved to Wilton, Somerset, where the names became established as Fronks. I am grateful for the suggestions and help received. Ruth > From: elizgh@btinternet.com > To: devon@rootsweb.com > Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 16:07:17 +0000 > Subject: [DEV] Charles Warren Franks bap 1745 Clayhidon > > Hi, on the Tithe Apportionment for Clayhidon, there are > two Warrens , David and John, both freeholders , no Franks or Hitchcock. > In the same apportionment there seem to be a collection of Franks in East > Budleigh, Feniton, Littleham (Exmouth) Ottery St Mary , Upottery , > Thorncombe and Woodbury both as freeholders and tenants. The Hitchcocks > are more numerous and can be found in Hemyock, Honiton, Harpford, Littleham > , South Molton, Thorncombe, Talaton, Uplyme, Upottery again as both > freeholders and tenants. > Clayhidon is just 4 miles from Wellington, Somerset. though > in Devon. > The 1711-1799 freeholders list shows a number of Franks, > Frank, Franke, and the name change is illustrated particularly by Abraham > who is Frank, Franke, and Franks. and is to be found in the Crediton and > West Budleigh area . If you look at the National Archives/A2A site and > just try John Frank , you will pick up Clayhidon`s apprentice orders, and > you will find the combination of Warren , Hitchcock and Frank. but there is > also a plethora of Somerset villages mentioned. > Friends of Devon Archives tithe apportionment might also > show Duns Green estate under Clayhidon. The first Franke who appears in > the Freeholders lists for Clayhidon is John Franke , yeoman in 1762 , and > the same year John Warren in Buckerell. And in 1771 in Clayhidon a Jacob > Hitchcock as well as a Robert Warren, sergemaker, both freeholders . > Robert Warren is in Churchstanton in 1783 , Jacob Hitchcock is still a > yeoman in Clayhidon. By 1700 there are three Warrens in Churchstanton , > Robert, William and David. > So you have a choice of parishes where all three names have > been found, and so three choices of places of burial of Robert > Franks/Frank/Franke. On National Archives/A2A site the apprentice record > of Charles to Robert Warren is shown as being part of the Clayhidon parish > documents . The Tithe apportionment shows a Dunsgreen , an area of 83 > acres, in the ownership and tenancy of Willliam Farrant. and also from the > same source a Dunsgreen lane , both in the Clayhidon parish. > > > > > life is hard . soften it with a cat \\\=^..^=/// > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ruth Henriegel" <ruthhenriegel@msn.com> > To: "DEVON@rootsweb.com" <devon@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 11:51 AM > Subject: [DEV] Charles Warren Franks bap 1745 Clayhidon > > > > Charles Warren Franks was the illegitimate son of Joan Hitchcock presumed > > widow of Robert Franks of Clayhidon although no record of Robert's death > > has been found. > > > > In 1757 Charles Warren Franks was apprenticed to Robert Warren for Duns > > Green Estate (PO451). It is interesting to note that someone (? Robert > > Warren) has put a line through Charles second name of Warren on the > > indenture! After that event I cannot find any further record of Charles > > Warren Franks or as Charles Franks. Nor can I find any reference to Duns > > Green Estate. Does anyone on this list know in what parish the estate was > > located? > > > > Any thoughts on this would be appreciated. > > > > Ruth Henriegel > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > > and > > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > > List archive for Devon can be found at > > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------------------ > The DEVON-L mailing list is co-sponsored by GENUKI/Devon > ( http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/ ) > and > the Devon FHS (http://www.devonfhs.org.uk/ ) > List archive for Devon can be found at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/DEVON/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DEVON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message